Final Four! Eric & Jessica Evicted From Big Brother 8

by soonerryan on September 6, 2007

And then there were four.

If you don’t want to know who was booted from the Big Brother 8 house tonight, then read no further, and don’t click the “more” link.

Throughout the week, if you watch those feeds, you knew that Dick and Daniele planned to evict Jessica even after telling Jameka she would be gone. With 10 minutes left to spare before Thursday night’s live show, the plan was for Dick to offer Jameka a deal.

We don’t know whether that deal went down, but we do know that Thursday night was to be a double-eviction event. Tension.

Jessica almost breaks down when making her speech to the house. Jameka had said before that if the vote came back 3-0, she knew she would be gone, and if it were 2-1, she knew she would be safe.

The vote was 2-1. Jameka was right, and she was safe.

After a long embrace with Eric, Jessica told CBS’ Julie Chen that her feelings for Eric were genuine. Of course, Eric had also told her that he would fight like mad for the two of them in the subsequent HoH.

And, it was a game of brains over brawn, meaning Eric would fare well — right?

After taking a 5 to 4 to 4 lead over Daniele and Dick, the venerable E.D. went on a guessing rampage (by his own admission) and WON the HoH. But this week there would be no photos from home, no buckets full of candy and chips, no treasure chests full of Marlboro Reds.

Dick fulfilled his obligation on this double-eviction night and nominated Jameka and Eric. No surprise.

However, the PoV competition, which typically I don’t believe they had done on previous Big Brother double-eviction nights (Big Brother “Fast Forward,” as Julie called it), was all about little balls. C’mon! Surely Eric would do well in a game centered on little balls, right?

Jesting aside, the back yard was set up for 700 pounds worth of small balls of various colors to pour down on them. The houseguests’ challenge? Grab eight of the green balls and put them in a container, ring a buzzer and bask in their PoV glory.

About halfway through the competition though, Jameka was disqualified. A blue ball had been put into her container. She was peeved and immediately accused Eric of sabotaging her although I think it was agreed upon that the ball probably bounced into her container. Nothing was ever said about it because Zach won.

Now, Zach had a choice. I do believe he would have been safe from nomination if he had removed one of the houseguests, but I don’t know that to be the case. Maybe he didn’t know it either. However, my thought was that he could have removed Eric, forcing Dick to nominate Daniele.

In my opinion, this was an opportunity for some high tension, even if this was a show already full of it packed into an hour. However, Zach stayed loyal to his oath and kept the nominations the same.

Eric Stein, who will forever be known as America’s Player was evicted 2-0.

He told Julie his feelings for Jess were genuine, and it was revealed that he had earned $40,000 for his AP efforts. Nothing was said to the houseguests about his role in the game, probably because he has more work to be done. Maybe it will be something they reveal on Sunday, when Big Brother is back for the HoH competition.

Unless there is some provision allowing all houseguests at this point to participate in the HoH, it will be Daniele, Zach and Jameka battling for a spot in the Final 3. There is only one vote for eviction to be had at this point, and that will happen live on Tuesday.

In other words, if Daniele wins and nominates Zach and Jameka, and neither wins the PoV, then it will be Dick casting the vote. On Thursday, the Final 2 will be revealed as the Final 3 will vie for HoH with the winner single-handedly evicting the one houseguest he or she does not want by his or her side on Sept. 18.

When this season began, and this is documented, I speculated that it would be CBS dream to have a Dick-Daniele finale. However, Zach has been a fierce competitor the past few weeks, and Jameka seems quite hungry (let the eating jokes begin!), and I still think the unexpected could happen, including a Zach-Jameka finale.

It truly is anybody’s game at this point.

But that’s what I think. What do you think? Let the comments begin! …

dasani September 6, 2007 at 8:44 pm

OMG..Dick cheated!! he put the blue ball in jameka tube

go back and watch in slow motion

dick cheated

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Brian September 6, 2007 at 8:45 pm

Eric got bamboozeled.

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dasani September 6, 2007 at 8:47 pm

DICK PUT THE BLUE BALL IN HER TUBE…I CAN’T BELIEVEL BB DIDN’T SEE…

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? September 6, 2007 at 8:49 pm

DICK IS A BLUE BALL CHEAT

DICK IS A BLUE BALL CHEAT

DICK IS A BLUE BALL CHEAT

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Steve September 6, 2007 at 9:01 pm

This is the worst season of big brother, Eric was a idiot for not using the POV when he had a chance and that would have saved him and Jessica because Dick or Danille would have been gone. I hope Jameka wins and Dick and Danille go down in flames

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Brain September 6, 2007 at 9:04 pm

totally unrelated…but you know how people started calling jessica+erics showsmance “erica” [combo of both names] ever notice how danielle+nick blend together as “dick”? just a thought…..btw……..im pissed about eric+jess

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Bjorn Nitmo September 6, 2007 at 9:05 pm

I can’t believe that neither Eric, Jameka or Zach realized (and in the case of the first two, said aloud) that this was the only chance to break the unbreakable Donato alliance. Had Zach removed one of the two nominees that would have forced Danielle onto the block and they could have voted her out. The toughest competitor would be gone and the only real alliance broken. Then the remaining, minus Dick, would have had a much better chance at winning. For all the talk about game play, Eric, Jameka and Zach aren’t very good at actually playing the game. I guess they can lament that fact when they realize that they were the architects of their own demise.

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discokilla September 6, 2007 at 9:07 pm

I hope Danielle doesn’t win, I hope Dick doesn’t win I can see them starring in the next white trash Rob Zombie flick. Jessica and Eric had their chance to get rid of Dick or Danielle and they ignored common sense and trusted them, so they got what they deserved. I’m pulling for Jameka..she hasn’t has a chance for HOH for 5 crucial weeks(her choice) and that’s brutal. If it wasn’t for the cheesy religious crap she’s actually pretty cool..plus I like a woman with curves and she has a nice big booty.

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Debby September 6, 2007 at 9:11 pm

I’m with you Brian. I TVIO’d the show and pretty much fast forwarded through the whole thing. I really wanted Jessica to win. Eric got worked over by being America’s Player. Now I would like to see Jam to some damage, but alas I think the creepy duo will come out on top.

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Donna Rose September 6, 2007 at 9:13 pm

There is no way in hell the “showmance” will continue between Eric & Jessica once they all take their marbles and go home. And, sadly, as I’ve said many times before, the jury house is full of the most immature game players, they will not vote for the best game play, but the one who hurt their little, tender feelings the LEAST. They are too childish to be objective and see the game for what it is and realize that they were all outplayed by whomever is sitting in the final 2.

And while I’m at it, maybe someone can pay for some voice lessons for Jessica so she can learn that the word “and” isn’t pronounced “eeeeeeeeeand.” =^^=

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tuggers September 6, 2007 at 9:15 pm

Was I the only one who saw Dick put a blue ball in his pocket early on then put his back to the camera right by Jemeka’s tube? In the kitchen later he laughed and asked her if she thought someone cheated and she said no it must have bounced in there.

I rewound it several times and it looked to me like Dick cheated!

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Medieval September 6, 2007 at 9:29 pm

Good…the weasel and his lil’ cheerleader are GONE! Now, it’s time to get the slacker, JaMeKa out as well. How about a double Donato to win…yeah!

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me September 6, 2007 at 9:31 pm

Tuggers, I rewound it and saw what you’re saying, and appears you’re right and notice how everyone kept shoving Eric around and away from where he was heading?

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Donna Rose September 6, 2007 at 9:50 pm

CBS rewound and reviewed the tape and said GOD put the ball in Jameka’s tube, meaning it just bounced in there on it’s own. She’s in the final 4 anyway. You’re all so quick to blame Dick. He was playing for himself. And, they all shoved each other in their attempts to get the green balls. Didn’t you notice the head gear & knee pads?

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alex's mom September 6, 2007 at 9:51 pm

people see what they want to see…i saw dick’s necklace get broken. i saw dick bend over and pick it up off the ground. i saw dick put his broken necklace in his pocket. i even saw dick discussing the broken piece of his necklace after they came inside. what earthly reason would dick have for sabatoging jameka in the pov contest? dick and jameka made a deal..she was never going to go home no matter what. seemed to me that jameka immediately suspected eric when julie told her she’d been disqualified. people just always want to start trouble.
if the cbs executives who were watching the pov competition close enough to catch the blue ball in jameka’s container..then they would have seen if dick…or anyone else put a different colored ball in. dick would have been disqualified also. there where a lot of little balls bouncing around..one could have bounced in accidently..or perhaps jameka in her haste and nervousness could have thought she had a green ball land put the blue ball in herself. until cbs makes a statement saying dick put the blue ball in jameka’s container i am not going to listen to the rabid ravings of a few individuals who just seem to like stirring up shit.

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Wendy September 6, 2007 at 9:53 pm

Alex’s mom is completely right. Couldn’t have said it better myself.

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Cruise Fun September 6, 2007 at 10:04 pm

I 3rd Alex’s Mom. Here! Here!

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Big-Brother September 6, 2007 at 10:04 pm

The whole “Blue Ball” incident really is a moot point since Zach dominated and won. If Jameka or Dick won (or even Eric) then I think there could have been more of a stink. Honestly…it did not matter who won veto to a certain extent since Dick and Dani had it under control. Either Eric, Zach or Jameka was gone. If there would have been a tie with the Vote then Dick would break it.

The competition that was the most important was the HoH and Eric had a chance being in the lead near the end….but he blew it. Sad….I liked America’s Player. I liked Jess better….but I digress.

Just my take on the POV competition!

Peace, BBBlogger

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Evils Evil Twin September 6, 2007 at 10:04 pm

Zach won fair and square, Jamekacrite lost, god put the blue ball in her stuff, ED didn’t do it, if you have a PROBLEM with that then you can KISS MY BLUE BALLS.

get a frickin life already

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realitee September 6, 2007 at 10:06 pm

That is one way to look at it “Alex’s mom”. But I know what I saw and I saw Evil ass Dick put something in his pocket. My thought was that it was a ball. He was having a hard time stuffing it in his pants so it could not have been a small necklace. A necklace could have been easily concealed. However a ball is a little harder to conceal when your stuffing it in your pants. He put the ball in Jameka’s container. It was the Marlboro Man.

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GOD September 6, 2007 at 10:07 pm

NO I DIDN’T!!!

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Evils Evil Twin September 6, 2007 at 10:07 pm

ok, I know if we HAD a life we wouldn’t be here…

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GOD September 6, 2007 at 10:08 pm

life??? what the hells that???

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Evils Evil Twin September 6, 2007 at 10:10 pm

realitee, you’re a frickin clown. I would be more specific, but then BBBlogger would ban me from this website

GOD, YES YOU DID!!!!

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GOD September 6, 2007 at 10:11 pm

REALLY, I was eating dinner at the time… I had meat balls, but they wern’t blue!!! Haven’t had blue balls since High School…

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Dora September 6, 2007 at 10:11 pm

Dick did not put no blue ball in Jamela’s tube I have no idea where in the world people come up with the bull, but that load is truly not right, come on give the D&D’s there due they just played the game a little bit better

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Donna Rose September 6, 2007 at 10:12 pm

realitee…you must have something to say about the grassy knoll and Jimmy Hoffa is probably buried in your back yard. And just exactly where is Natalee Holloway? =^^=

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Big-Brother September 6, 2007 at 10:13 pm

EET….thanks for not being specific….remember Big Brother is watching! LOL

…and I think everyone here has a life….just maybe a little bit sheltered but a life nontheless. 😉

Honestly, I am thankful that you are all here. I hope you are enjoying being a part of our site just as much as watching the show.

**I still cannot believe God had predicted my server would MELT after the show**

Peace, BBBlogger

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Donna Rose September 6, 2007 at 10:13 pm

God – you’re such a pig…I know I’m going to hell now for sure…=^^=

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John September 6, 2007 at 10:14 pm

Well I got the HOH wrong, but YES! Jeric get to go to SH hand in hand!

I thought Dick put a green ball in his pocket, I just figured he was collecting so he didnt waste time running back and forth.

Moot point now, however based upon the comments, I would have loved to hear what BB would have done in the event there was a foul. Especially if it couldnt have been reviewed correctly until after the hour was up.

As for the shoving, I am suprised the remaining HG’s all didn’t have some scrapes and a few broken teeth! Heck, a Hockey game could have broken out!

Now if the feeds would PLEASE come back up!

Question: If personal property is damaged in a compitition (Dick’s chain) will BB replace it?

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GOD September 6, 2007 at 10:17 pm

what????

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John September 6, 2007 at 10:19 pm

I think Im lost on the God/pig comment.
However I am familiar with the God/Dog references, but sometimes I words say in reverse.

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Donna Rose September 6, 2007 at 10:21 pm

Blue balls? Since high school?…jeez, guys…a bit personal I guess, but it’s actually a town in Pennsylvania. No harm meant. =^^=

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GOD September 6, 2007 at 10:23 pm

woof woof

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Donna Rose September 6, 2007 at 10:26 pm

….near the Amish area of Intercourse, Penn., Look it up. =^^=

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Evils Evil Twin September 6, 2007 at 10:30 pm

ok, so the Amish have blue balls?

That makes sense.

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Brian September 6, 2007 at 10:37 pm

Dick was sitting back smoking a cig. and he still managed to get his balls in a tube. I’m rootin’ and tootin’ for Jameka to win HOH and put the D&D team up for eviction.

GOD EATS MEATBALLS? Go figure.

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Natvtxn September 6, 2007 at 10:45 pm

Alas, the JEDDi is NO LONGER! Now it’s up to the “DD ALLIANCE” (Devil’s Duo!) Yes, we can bash or lament over the stupidity of “Jerica”, but what’s the point? EET, ship them a case of juice boxes! Oh wait, Jessica said she wanted to stay drunk for her duration at the SH! Hm….well Eric will be able to “test” Jessica’s claim in being “conservative.” Hope someone is packing Eric’s “socks” while they are competing for HoH!……And don’t you find it IRONIC that: 1. Dick WILL NOT get his basket and Vincent’s letter (Im positive he will be cussing about that one for the duration of “Dick @ Nite”)? 2. Hilarious that Dani was nom. by America? NO BRAINER THERE! Can’t wait till that tidbit is finally revealed to her! Too bad we won’t be able to see it!……Loved how Jameka kept referring to her “sell out” with the DEVIL’s DUO! “I’m a woman of my word!” TWICE she said it. DRAMA! Will she be an idiot and stick to her Deal? Cuz HOW BORING that both Zack And Jameka have sworn alliance to DEVIL DUO!?

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John September 6, 2007 at 10:47 pm

Ahhh, now you all are talking bout mah hometown.
While I now live in FL, I was born and raised a few miles outside Lancaster.
We got towns here like Running Bear, Bird in Hand, Blue Ball, Intercourse and of course Paradise.

The Amish may be plain, but they have one heck of a sense of humor!

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Natvtxn September 6, 2007 at 10:48 pm

So we might as well stop the show right now if they cant even play for themselves!

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John September 6, 2007 at 10:49 pm

Well folks, I admit that I wasted 10 cell text’s for Dani to be nominated!
Funny, in RL I am rarely with the majority! 😉

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Brian September 6, 2007 at 10:52 pm

Jamekamekamomeka Bananabanabobeka feefifofeka Jameka.

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John September 6, 2007 at 10:53 pm

Oh, and another thing (Trying for this to become the BB/John blog; heh)
If I were there, I’d have sold my soul to a few alliances to make it to F4.
If that were as far as I got, I’d be able to say how well I read the group and earned the trust of different groups.

Lame bragging rights, sure, but bragging rights for a national reality show all the same

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Natvtxn September 6, 2007 at 10:56 pm

I bet ShowTime2 will have its largest audience tonite!

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me September 6, 2007 at 10:56 pm

Something I noticed that the fans of Jess and Eric just come on here and comment and say what they feel and all the fans of Dick and Daniele just rip them apart. I guess thats just the type of people D&D fans are. You would just about have to be to like THEM, either 16 yr olds or burnt out 50 yr olds!

Simple fact happens to be Zack’s move with his POV to not use it, when only a person who has been brain dead for 6 months might not know using the POV tonight and having Eric or Jameka replaced would have resulted with Dani on the block thus insuring her eviction and leaving Dick as a limp dick for the next HOH competition and his probably eviction simply smells of something that has smelled for a long time this year!

Ever since Dick outright assaulted Jenn and not only on one occasion, but on two occasions and his not being escorted from the BB8house as was done for lesser actions to a HG in prior years, commenced the actual visualization of this game being rigged at the hands of the Producers!

Never before in live feeds in years past has there been so many calls for to HG’s into the DR! In years past cigarettes were trashed by HG’s and never replaced, it being a part of the game, yet Dick’s were replaced in under 15 minutes! When Producers informed that destroying HG’s property was not tolerated, then Eric doing a AC task in pouring mustard on Jens shirt should have penalized him, but it didn’t!

Dani’s mentioning of Amber seeing her cousin on Power of 10 on live feeds was in direct violation of the rules they were given to not discuss at all or in any way their prize! But again nothing happened!

Unfortunately, if all we had to watch were the shows and not the live feeds, we might believe what we are seeing to be valid live survivor and other shows, but the live feeds have exposed the GAME to a lot of the rigging going on to protect the shows highest ratings HG of the season and this season happens to be Dick!

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GOD September 6, 2007 at 10:59 pm

well said, me said

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Brian September 6, 2007 at 11:01 pm

If I were in the BB8 House instead of Eric, I would have “Backdoored” Jessica if ya know what I mean. wink wink.

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John September 6, 2007 at 11:05 pm

If Me is correct on all counts, I bow to Me for knowledge of this game.
Makes one suspect that what constitutes Big Brother is evolving.
Might be hard for folks who do not/ wish not to embrase change, but it is not our game, is it?

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Natvtxn September 6, 2007 at 11:07 pm

#Zack won!

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Natvtxn September 6, 2007 at 11:09 pm

Dani is pissing in her panties! Dang how long is she gonna whine?

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DONNA September 6, 2007 at 11:12 pm

WHAW…WHAW….LITLLE CRYBABY. SUCH A SORE LOSER!!!!!

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Brian September 6, 2007 at 11:12 pm

I agree with everything Me said. The producers totally controlled the game and probably knew the winner from week 2. My question is this: What would you do to improve Big Brother for next season?

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Vivian September 6, 2007 at 11:12 pm

I am slow, but don’t they have to have another HOH comp tonight? Dick can’t still be HOH can he?

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Brian September 6, 2007 at 11:14 pm

If I were Zach, I’d make a deal with Jameka and put up Dani and Dick.

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Natvtxn September 6, 2007 at 11:15 pm

Dani is sure that she and her dad are going on the block! Dick has to keep calming her down. She is definitely showing her true age!

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John September 6, 2007 at 11:15 pm

Zach won HOH again!?
Hot damn!
I was gonna say that I’d be back after the next episode of Top Chef, but No way!
You all are stuck with me now.
::evil snicker::

Wow, Dani si upset, and some trash talking of her Z boy.
She will snap out of it! She will weasel back into the HOH bedroom and schmmoze the poor sap.
Sure, Dick and Jameka go up, Dani votes Jamecka out, and then there were three!

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Brian September 6, 2007 at 11:15 pm

Zach won HOH!!!!!!

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icyhotlady September 6, 2007 at 11:18 pm

Hey now…could it have been that ping pong ball that I kept hearing about all season? The blue one?

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DONNA September 6, 2007 at 11:18 pm

JOHN, dont forget about POV whoever wins that has ALL the power. they decide who goes home

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icyhotlady September 6, 2007 at 11:20 pm

Donna Rose…maybe Jimmy is buried in the grassy knoll?

(Yes I am running behind in reading posts, bear with me, will be caught up shortly.)

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Brian September 6, 2007 at 11:22 pm

If Jameka wins POV, buhbye Dick.

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Vivian September 6, 2007 at 11:23 pm

If I hear Dani say “This sucks” one more time…………………………………..

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Vivian September 6, 2007 at 11:25 pm

Do ya’ll possibly think Zach did all of this on purpose. Appeared purposely less threatening and no good at comps until the end? He has won Two HOH and a POV in one weeks time. It sounds like he may have tried to be a floater til the end and then showed what he had? Possible?

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Natvtxn September 6, 2007 at 11:26 pm

Okay Everybody…one more time…Yes Zack won HOH and all Dani can keep saying is IT SUCKS IT SUCKS IT SUCKS! She is already heading to workout to get ready for PoV Competition (Endurance)

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Natvtxn September 6, 2007 at 11:30 pm

She is refusing to put on her mike!

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John September 6, 2007 at 11:30 pm

Donna, Brian, et all,

I know yes, we still have a POV, but I have this gut feeling that Dani will once again win.
(Is there a theme of blonds overwhelmingly winning POV here?)

I trust this feeling. I see the F3 as the Donato’s and Z boy.

I also have the very strange feeling that Zach is not what we have been watching.
Can’t place this either on anything concrete, but we should watch it.

Geeze, BB has now 3X asked Dani to put on her microphone, and all she has stated “Im not talking!”
DOH, get with the program Dani. As I mentioned before, this is not our game, and apparently not hers either!

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Natvtxn September 6, 2007 at 11:37 pm

Whats good is that Dani is shook up! HOW IMMATURE! Im glad she FINALLY has that Egotistic Smirk wiped off her pasty face!

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Bruiser September 6, 2007 at 11:44 pm

Dick and Dani will stay.
Zach would rather go against either of them than JaFloater with the SH full of her nerd herd.

D or D all the way !!

Dani best player there.
Dick most entertaining player EVER.

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MOE September 6, 2007 at 11:47 pm

JAMEKA LOST HER FOCUS AND STOPPED GRABBING FOR BALLS WITH THE SAME FOCUS WHEN JULIE TOLD HER SHE HAD TO DISQUALIFY HERSELF. REGARDLESS, IF PUTTING A BLUE BALL IN THE TUBE WOULD DISQUALIFY JAMEKA AND DICK PUT THE BALL IN HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISQUALIFIED NO MATTER WHO WON. I SAW HIM PUT SOMETHING IN HIS POCKET TOO AND FIGURED HE WOULD PUT TWO BALLS IN HIS OWN TUBE AT A TIME. I HOPE THEY ADDRESS THIS AND LET US KNOW ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. AFTER THREE BALLS WE DID NOT SEE WHO PUT THE OTHER TWO IN JAMEKA’S TUBE. IT DOES SEEM LIKE ED KNOWS A LOT OF FAMOUS PEOPLE AND GOT AWAY WITH STUFF OTHERS HAVE NOT ON PREVIOUS BBS. IT’S NOT FUN TO WATCH IF ZACK AND JAMEKA STICK TO THEIR WORDS AND BASICALLY WONT VOTE OUT D&D EVEN KNOWING D&D ARE VOTING THEM OUT. DUMB WAY TO WIND UP THE SEASON. IT MAKES ME WONDER IF OTHER PEOPLE WERE IN THE HOUSE TO MAKE SURE THEY WON. UP UNTIL TONIGHT I HAVE ROOTED FOR THEM BUT I HOPE JAMEKA ENDS UP BEING IN THE FINAL 2 NOW BECAUSE SHE WAS THE ONLY ONE IN THE HOUSE LEFT IMO THAT DICK COULD NOT HAVE BEATEN IN THE FINAL 2 WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHO IS ON THE JURY. AND D&D MADE DEALS WITH EVERYONE, THEY DIDN’T NEED TO GET AMERICA’S PLAYER BOOTED OUT. HE HAD NO FRIENDS IN THAT JURY HOUSE BECAUSE OF ALL THE BACK DOORING HE HAD TO DO WHILE PLAYING FOR US. I THINK THEY HAD A BETTER CAHNCE WITH HIM THERE. I’M READY TO BOTH OF THEM BACK DOORED AT THIS POINT.

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Bruiser September 6, 2007 at 11:49 pm

Hey insiders… How come no SH footage this year ??

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John September 6, 2007 at 11:49 pm

YES! Dick and Jameka are talking.
Staring to piece it together.
Close but not quite there.
Funny, as an outsider I am screaming at the screen: “Think harder… what does your gut say??!!”
But I suspect they will get there.

Greatest line so far tonight? IMHO, it’s something a waitress said to me tonight while at dinner “it is what it is”.

I have been waiting for this to occur all season! As an outsider of the day to day (D2D) I have been waiting for this to be said. What a relief! At least 2 of the F4 know, and after tonight, D&D + Jameka will know.
And as I mention, I suspect Zach may have known for a while.

The “fog of war” is lifting, and all remaining players will see the entire board, and this game will finally be on an even playing field.

It is 12:47 local, Good night fellow bloggers!

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John September 6, 2007 at 11:54 pm

Ok, Quick reply:
Bruiser, ask away, and if you get a reply, let us all know!

While the house has been so-so, and sometimes entertaining….

What is happening at the Sequester House?
In earlier blog therads, it was suggested that it takes time for the police to clean the blood out of the carpets.
I totally agree with that, but lordy (GOD) lordy, what is happening? There is not much time for the world to know what is happening.

So maybe this is part of that evolving I mentioned? I would not like for that to go away… but unless we all challenge CBS, we may never know! 😉

Night all!

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John September 7, 2007 at 12:33 am

Damn, I have lied yet again!
I have captured the following in Word to post:
Apologies to you all! Seriously, I am sorry, but I can not wait till I awake.
BB Rulez!
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Ok,
So I am totally addicted!
I promised I was going to bed, but I am sitting here watching, and logging it all in Word until I can upload after a decent amount of time to assure you all I have not stayed up and am spamming the blog.

Bahaha! Well I am up, and am watching, and practicing restraint.

1:05 Am EST Dick needs a smoke!. Fellow bloggers, I share Dick’s pain. If I had to locked down indoors for the time they have; I may be suffering with dude.

It is quite funny that all BUT Zach are not hanging out. Where is Z boy?
If he is dealing with DR before his HOH, then, OK.
I really wish we had a more personal and intimate glimpse into the DR sessions.

C’mon BB, we can not communicate with the HG’s! Give us some insight!
Evolve into a greater voyeuristic game, gosh darn it!

1:13 est Dani is “sooo depressed”
Woman, and yes, she is a woman… Put on your big girl pants, and get OVER it!

Dick: Who cares that the last question did not follow the format you expected.
Is this Dick’s Big Brother game?
::groan::

Dani: “Why do they rush everything?” :ppPpPpPP to you chica.

OMG, Dani “likes” Z boy! Wow, could you see Dick’s face at that wedding??
WOOT!

HA HA HA: Dani “if they call me into the DR, I am not going.”
How funny is that??! I love her delusion! BB, may I please have Dani’s prescription? I promise to pay full price!! No insurance involved! Promise!

Wowerz’s Zach gets to pack Jeric’s belongings. GOD, please protact Zach, and Jameka who offered to help. They either need to get gloves, or devine assistance to avoid an STD.

Also GOD, please inform Dani that she is not in charge, and follow the rules as set up by BB.

Amen.

John
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me September 7, 2007 at 1:32 am

John, notice any similarities between Jen and Dani?….lol Well at least Jen did things to retaliate against BB and Dani is doing it because she is a spoiled whiner and knows she will once again have to do some serious lip pressing against Zacks butt to try to save herself!
Zack, hope your dead brain cells rejuvinated themselves to think realisticly now and you nominate D/D this time around!

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teresa September 7, 2007 at 2:10 am

americas rat face two face player and dumbest player ever to ever try to win hoh is finally gone what a miracle ED YOU FINALLY DID IT
you and DANI WILL KICK BUTT THAT GOOD LUCK FORTUNE COOKIE MESSASGE YOU’VE HAD FOR 18 YRS PROVES IT YOUR A WINNNER

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Ronjj September 7, 2007 at 2:22 am

How long will it be before Daniele puts on her shortest shorts and her smallest tank top and then go upstairs and lounge on Zach’s bed again? Hopefully, this time Zach will not fall for it and have the intelligence to put her on the block. The guests talked about the competitions tonight in a sensible manner, discussing their mistakes. Daniele never stopped whining about her loss. Talk about a sore loser!!! She it still the most pathetic guest of the season.

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Jalawa September 7, 2007 at 4:03 am

I HATE the Donatos!! Both of ’em! Yeah they may be decent in this game but that’s just because they’re both naturally manioulative decietful people. Dick has worn the moniker of “Evil” proudly. Apparentely he wasn’t really taken too seriously. And Dani… it’s like every episode she’s whining about something. Whether it be Nick, or arguing with The Dick. And as for Zack… I wouldn’t be surprised very much at all if he lost this game to Dani’s chest.

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Jalawa September 7, 2007 at 4:03 am

Oh yeah… HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME!!

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piflette September 7, 2007 at 6:58 am

Dick did put a ball in his pochette, but we cant tell the color, I have it on tape………..

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 7:28 am

Well I am very disappointed that my favorite players where evicted . Eric almost pulled off winning a HOH …. close but no cigar right . The thing that bothered me the most I think about Jessica eviction was the look on the child’s face … she was crushed … sorry but that brings the momma bear out in me. She will be kicking herself for a long time for not going with in gut and putting up D&D in her last HOH. I said then and I am saying it now … that decision determined the outcome of the game for her and Eric right then and there. I hope that when all is said and done and they watch the tapes back that DICK sees that sweet little face eyes filled with tears for the rest of his natural born life. At least Eric and Jessica can say they lived up to their bargin… Dick and Dani where the double crosser this year … call that good game play if you want but I think it stinks … They could have just told Jess she was leaving but no they took the cowards way out . well enough of my whinning about the lovebirds eviction on with the weeks events.

so Zach pulled off another win … the boy is on fire !!!! Go Zach !!!! Good Lord I hope he has the good sense to put up the nasty duo and get the little brat out of there … my bet is he wont … he will play right into the double D’s hands and take them at their word …

Jameka you go girl …. not been one of her fans …. basically because she has worn her misguided religion on her sleeve … but you got to hand it to her … not won a single HOH and not made any of the tough decsions not made any enemies
and she is in the final four … good for her ….

I hope it comes down to Zach and Dick … or Jameka and Dick … or even Zach and Jameka … that would be a crap shoot as too who would win … I DO NOT want to see that brat Dani in the final 2 … Dick winning will be like her winning anyways because she will get part of the winnings anyway.

congrats to AP Eric for his 40 grand winnings …. not to shabby ….

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AFather September 7, 2007 at 7:34 am

D&D are gamers. Eric showed his true sportsmanship when he blamed losing on being AP. He was a true whiner. At anytime he could have passed on americas assignement and fortited the money he won. He did it because he wanted to hedge his investiment incase he didnt win the game. $40K is a nice parting prize, considering the second place winner gets 50K.

Another thing, Eric complained that being AP hurt him in his game. I disagree, by him knowing who america wanted voted out or pranks played on, told him who was popular in the game, or who was doing devious things that he didnt know about.

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Donna K. September 7, 2007 at 7:39 am

I hate to say it, but maybe it is preordanined for Jamekacrite to win this, …….lets see there has never been a black BB winner……….hmmmmmmmmmm????? ya think there isn’t any CBS manilipuation?……….she will be too pressed to win either HOH or POV she’ll choke………..i hope J’s out next week, and a Z and one of the D’s in the final 2………….

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Evil Me September 7, 2007 at 7:54 am

Why are people hating on Dick and Dani – it is a game…A GAME…Just a reality show to win some money. Don’t hate the player Hate the game….I love this game…..I myself could not sign up to be in situation like being sequestered in a house or put on a deserted island, because I would just freak out and go Dick on everybody. And I would not go into the diary room to apologize and says “it is just part of the game” as Dick has said in the past. I love BB.

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 7:57 am

Eric did not have a choice in the players he voted out … he had a choice in the pranks but not the eviction … and I am sorry … that did screw up his game play . he would have done better in the game had he not had to do america’s bidding. But those of you who don’t like Eric will not admit to that just like when Dick lies and manipulates he is a good gamer … but when Eric done it he was labeled a weasel and a sneak … sorry can’t have it both ways.

GO ZACH GO

GO SISTER JAMEKA … maybe she does have GOD on her side … and she could be the first Black BB winner

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Donna K. September 7, 2007 at 7:57 am

did anyone also note that Jam went to kitchen sink and washed her hands after the 2nd eviction?……….i guess she did make a deal with the devils………

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 7:59 am

YAWN…..Good morning

SO what happened last night? The last thing I remember (after my 12th scotch and water) was Julie saying something about a double eviction….

hehehehehehehe

Jamekacrite is going next.

and can you believe all the “Dick cheated! Dick cheated! I SAW IT!!!” on here last night?

I need to get that new software that lets you actually blog AND reach into cyberspace and slap the crap out of somebody at the same time.

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 8:00 am

SherreLu, you’re dead to me AGAIN. Just watch out when David get’s here….

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 8:13 am

EET whatever man … you’re just mad cause I wouldn’t let you backdoor me !!!

I am just really mad that Dick was a cheat as well as a lying backhanded double dealing @#@@#@#@#@

I so wanted to see Jessica win the big $$$ sniff….sniff…sniff..

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 8:15 am

SherreLu, THAT’S IT! I’m heading to the computer store RIGHT NOW and get that software. So, in an hour from now, when you feel like someone is slapping your head, well, that’ll be me.

so THERE!

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 8:18 am

SherreLu, but before I leave…..

As much as I want ED to win it all, i just hope Jamekacrite DOESN’T. You just KNOW that her shyster paster at Our Lady of the Stripmall church will EASILY convince her that GOD want’s her to give all the money to HIM, I mean, his church. And THAT would just be WRONG

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Donna K. September 7, 2007 at 8:21 am

gm EET…………when will they be having the HOH comp? will it be today or tomorrow? or will be a live one on sun.? and if it is today or tomorrow, will someone e-mail me who wins? i don’t have the live feeds so i’m relying on you that do………….

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 8:23 am

Donna K, they had HoH last night before the Showtime AD feeds started. Zach won AGAIN. So I’m guessing Jamekacrite and ED go up (because ED will tell him to put himself up instead of Dani), and Jamekacrite will he leaving.

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 8:33 am

We have to come up with a good name for Dani, like we had for Whamber, because I thought I was gonna have to get the same kind of thing that EET is talking about for my t.v. last night and slap Dani. “I’m So Depressed”, “I hate this Game”, “This sucks so bad”. My 14 year old son asked me how could I listen to that girl?

I want anyone but Dani and am not too keen on Jam either. Did you hear her talking about Eric last night? She is just as much of a liar as he was. That is what you are supposed to do. PLAY THE GAME!

If anyone would have told me I would want Dick to win I would have told them they were smoking too much crack, but I am leaning toward him now!!!!

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 8:35 am

EET …. oh boy ….. I like it rough ….. LOL ….

I agree about jameka …. too …. I know that child would be taken advantage of by the people in her life but I just don’t want the vote to be down too …. the evil one … or the evil spawn . I will be fine with Dick winning … what he done to Jessica was wrong though and we all saw him put the ball in his pocket.

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Donna K. September 7, 2007 at 8:36 am

EET, i read on another site he’s putting up D & D…….even offered jam $$ to be on his side…………….and BB reprimanded him for it………so right now it looks like one of the D’s will go………

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David September 7, 2007 at 8:37 am

EET, SherreLu has broken my heart for the last time. Tell her I said not to talk to me!!! I can’t hear her…LALALALALALALA… God, can I borrow the headphones??

I am so depressed. Eric really should have let out some more flames last night. He should have stood up during the POV ceremony and said “Dick and Danielle made a deal for final four and lied. Don’t trust their word. Fine, vote me out, but don’t trust them.”

I actually like Dick and do not mind him in the F2 andI have no problem with lying in the game, but Dick constantly simpering about the integtrity of the game belies his actions.
I hope Zack realizes that he needs to get Danielle out. If he does not get Danielle out then he will not make it past F3. Learn from Eric!!

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 8:38 am

Donna K. I can’t get the live feeds at work ( shame on them to think I should actually be working instead of surfing the net ) so I visit Jokers bb updates and mortys bb updates … those guys do a good job of keeping up with the feeds.

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Donna K. September 7, 2007 at 8:40 am

so POV or not, which i guess will be played today or tomorrow, one of the D’s will be going…………..i don’t like it, it sucks, and i still think that BB has had too much say……….

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 8:45 am

Maybe one of the D’s WON’T be going. If Zach puts them both up and one wins POV, the Jamekacrite goes up and the remaining D does the voting, right?

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Stranger September 7, 2007 at 8:46 am

Dani is freaking out over next to nothing. HoH only gets you to the final 3, but POV this week means final 3 plus you get to vote who is out. Focus you silly young thing, focus.

Regardless of who is nominated, D or D winning POV means Jameka is done. If Zach wins POV, Jameka might go home if he thinks he can beat either D or D in the final 2, but he’s a little to simple in the head so I think he’ll just let Jameka vote one of the Donatos out.

Bottom line, 50/50 chance that Jameka is out. 50/50 shot for either Dick or Dani. Dick knows this, Dani is a little slow.

On AP Eric. Any winner of this game needs to step it up and win some competitions at some point. He couldn’t do it. Win a competition or 2 near the end of the game, and you are safe (Dani, Dick and especially Zach have all won lately). Lose, and you’re out. AP had very very little to do with it. Think of it this way, if he had been able to vote Dick or Dani out earlier, he still would have probably lost the competitions to whoever was left and STILL would be out on his backside at exactly the same point in the game.

He was wrong last night when he said the showmance with Jess didn’t mess up his game. It did (IMO).

Cheers.

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 8:46 am

But David … sniff …. sniff …. sniff…. I agree with you ….. it EET that has tried to split our alliance up all along don’t let him take you over to the darkside … I promise I will vote your way … sniff …. sniff….sniff….

My husband wanted Eric to punch Dick in the nose on the way out … but of course he could not MAN UP he had to hug him . ….. WTF was that ….

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Donna K. September 7, 2007 at 8:46 am

Sherr, i visit them too………….and another BB site………..but i love this one better………

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Donna K. September 7, 2007 at 8:48 am

EET, its a big IF one of the D’s win POV, and yes dani has been good at them, but jam will be fighting hard for it, but i think she will choke, because she has to try hard to win it……….she’ll choke, i hope…………

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 8:50 am

SherreLu, can you picture Eric punching ANYBODY? Besides, hugging ED gave him a chance to cop one last feel…..

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Donna K. September 7, 2007 at 8:50 am

Jessica didn’t “man’ up either, she talked about slapping someone on the way out, dick didn’t even hang around, he walked away when she was leaving…….and i also noted too that Jam left after washing her hands of making a deal with D & D, she probably went to pray for forgiveness………..GAG ME!!!!

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Donna K. September 7, 2007 at 8:52 am

GO DICK/DANI FOR POV!!!!!!!!!!!!!. So when will they have the nom ceremony?

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Verbal Kint September 7, 2007 at 8:52 am

EET is 10 times more judgemental than Jameka. Him calling her a hypocrite shows his ignorance.

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Nancee September 7, 2007 at 8:53 am

Go Zach!!!! Thats all I’m saying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 8:56 am

The only way to get one of them out is for Jam to win POV and I don’t think she can win against Dani. Jam is going to be the next to go. But I do want Dani to go. Can’t stand her anymore. She is ALMOST

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Rocklives September 7, 2007 at 8:56 am

I think Dani or Jam should go. I can’t see Zach wanting Jam in the F2. I think he wants one of the Ds. He probably thinks he could win against one of those 2. He really hid the fact he could play well. I think if Jam were to vote one of the Ds out she would vote out Dani. They all would probably want to be with Dick in the F2.. Although hopefully every single person in the JH will realize that Dick ran the show from the get go. So Dick will win!

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 8:57 am

Sorry. She is almost as bad as Whamber! Pass the headphones

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 8:57 am

Hey Verbal, thanks for joining the party.

Maybe if you were REALLY paying attention here you’d know that I am 13 times more judgemental than Jamekacrite.

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 9:01 am

The show I am watching has Jamekacrite. Sorry Verbal

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Stranger September 7, 2007 at 9:02 am

D or D win POV = J is out.

Z or J win POV = one of the D’s is out.

Pretty simple.

Cheers.

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 9:02 am

EET time to go to the store

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Donna Rose September 7, 2007 at 9:03 am

Evel Me…the reason everyone is bashing D&D is because they are like the HG’s in the Sequester house. Dick was talking to Jameka last night and said what I’ve been saying all along. Everyone was playing this game WAY too personal. They’re going to vote for whomever hurt their little, tender feelings the LEAST. Eric & Jess made bad moves, they had every opportunity to get rid of D&D and chose not to, even though they wanted to break the deal, too. Instead of being mad at themselves, they’re mad at D&D and will “punish” them by not voting for either of them to win if they’re in the final 2. Give me a break. It’s about timing and alliances aren’t forever. If you’re already out of the game, you have to look at the final 2 and realize that you were outplayed and vote for the best game player, not who you LIKE the best.

If Zach were smart, he’d get rid of Jameka and leave D&D with him for the final 3. No matter which one he’s up against he WILL WIN even though he shouldn’t because he just started playing. But he will be more LIKED than D&D and will win anyway for that reason alone. I’m glad they’re not showing the jury house. If you think Dani whines, think about the cheese BB have to give the ousted HG’s to go with all their whine. =^^=

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 9:08 am

LOL Donna Rose, I agree with you EXCEPT, want Dani gone, sorry! She has played the game very well, as has Dick and I want Dick to win. Cannot believe I am saying that. Anyway………Dani has to go. She is such a whiner and I cannot take it anymore. My children don’t whine like she does!!!!! She is pretty smart and a good player though, so she is deserving to win.

I said the minute Jess got HOH last time that this was her one and last chance to break of D&D and that if she didn’t do it, she was gone the next week. I hate it so badly that she didn’t play the game better because if she could have done that, I truly believe she would have won the whole thing.

As it stands now, I want Dani gone, then Jam, then Dick and Zach in Final Two!

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Natvtxn September 7, 2007 at 9:11 am

Zack IS putting up the DEVILs DUO! That means Zack or Jameka HAVE to win PoV to keep it the same or Jameka will go home! OMG! Didn’t you just love it when Zack claimed he was “God’s Instrument?” and he was going to take what his Dad said to him in his HoH letter and…”finish honorably?”….Dani is going ape sh$t and showing her true self. What a baby! Refusing to go to DR AND put on her mike! Looks like Jameka gets to sit pretty for once (not being on the block) and we get to see the DUO squirm. Now their chance to show what they’re really made of! Although, Dick did say he would take Zack to F2!

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Stranger September 7, 2007 at 9:13 am

Hi Donna Rose (I’m new here),

I agree with you all the way except the end. If Zach sticks with D & D, he MUST win HoH again to make it to the final 2. He knows this. If he gets rid of one of the D’s, the should have a 2 in 3 chance, instead of a 1 in 3 chance, to make the finals.

If he was super sneaky smart (he seems a little dense to me), he would try get rid of Dani this week and try make it to the finals with Dick instead of Jameka. That gives him the best chance at winning.

Of course, if Jameka was super smart, she would let Dani go this week and if she somehow finally wins a competition, take Dick to the finals. I agree with you on the ‘hurt feelings’ thing and she would probably clean his clock with the voters.

Cheers.

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Rocklives September 7, 2007 at 9:15 am

Eric whined about not being able to play his own way?? Give me a break! The only game he had was the AP crap. And everything else he did was to try and make himself look like a good guy for Jess. I think he could have played the AP stuff alot better. He could have been more honest about his voting and he could have handled his challenges better. Knowing you are accumulating a bunch of money on the side, has got to feel better than knowing your odds of winning the whole game. I think he should feel lucky to be the AP. Not blame it for not winning the game.

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 9:15 am

Zach said he was putting up D&D???? Wow, but his plan might be that he has a good feeling that one of the Donato’s will win POV and that will leave the other one to vote out Jameka. I guess either way, he is sitting pretty. I heard Whiney telling her daddy last night to make sure Zach knows he has to put up Dick and Jameka. Getting her daddy to do her work for her again!

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 9:18 am

She said she didn’t want to have to pack because she brought so much stuff and it took two handlers from the hotel to bring all of her stuff down!!!! She is starting to get to me the way Whamber did!

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Donna Rose September 7, 2007 at 9:18 am

Dani was pissed at herself for losing the most important HOH. She and Dick both beat themselves up over losing competitions since they are fierce competitors. Jess was the same way but you guys give her a pass since she was one of the “good people.” Zach will not win against Jameka in the end. He needs to take either Dick or Dani to win the 500K. =^^=

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GOD September 7, 2007 at 9:20 am

I just got out of a meeting with Satan… He was so full of himself holding up Jamika’s soul that she gave him last night… He just went on and on and on waving that thing in my face…

I just giggled and told him as I left to see you fine fold, “be careful what you wish for…” hehehehehehe

So all her future praying is being forwareded to him…. hehehehehehe

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GOD September 7, 2007 at 9:22 am

Zach said he was My Instrument??? No… I only have sharp blades in my drawer…

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Natvtxn September 7, 2007 at 9:24 am

Doesn’t matter. According to Daddy, Zack HAS to play “honorably” since he is now Gods Instrument and wants to obey BOTH Fathers!…Hm…GOD? Exactly what instrument will he be playing?

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David September 7, 2007 at 9:25 am

Can Zach play in the next HoH?
DonnaRose,
The flaw in your plan is that if he gets rid of Jameka, he has almost ZERO chance of making F2. D&D have the strongest chance of winning final HoH and he is gone. If he dumps Danielle, he greatly improves his chances of making F2 and at least getting second place.

I can think of 50 thousand reasons why second is better then 3rd. I cannot see any real way Zach will win first place, but he can get second if he gets Dani out. Besides…Dani is violating the “integrity of the game” HAHAHAH

Where is that Wendy snot today? No rubbing it in!!!

Verbal Kint…um…your logic is losing me. EET being judgmental is being a hypocrite? Jameka is a hypocrite because of her pretentions religious blathering all summer. When it comes down to the line I would bet that Dick is a better person on the inside…And EET is Dicks twin..soooooo

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 9:28 am

Donna Rose, you are right, she was beating herself up for losing and I understand that part, but just can’t listen to her voice anymore. JMO!!! As far as giving Jess a pass because she was one of the “good people”……..Huh??? Not me! Her voice was starting to get to me too. Too much watching BBAD and letting everything grate on my nerves I guess. I don’t do “the good people” I just go by who I think should win and then who I want to win. I wanted Jess to win but think that the Donato’s have played the game the best, therefore, seeing that Dani is so immature, rightly so being only 21, I am wanting Daddy Donato to win. I really think he has played the game the very best of all of them!

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David September 7, 2007 at 9:28 am

Sorry that was full of typos…I usually re-read my posts before submitting but my heart is not in it…sigh.. I was hoping I would walk in today and there would be no Zach in the house…sigh

Now I find myself wanting Zach in the F2…ugh!!

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 9:30 am

David, Wendy is probably right outside your window but just can’t get an internet signal! Wave to Wendy!

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GOD September 7, 2007 at 9:31 am

One more thing, there was talk that “GOD” was responsible for the blue ball in Jamika’s Tube”

for the record, No I didn’t put the blue ball in Jamika’s tube… if I were to put anything in Jamika’s tube, it wouldn’t be a blue ball… mostly, I would just like to have her put a sock in it… but now that Satan is receiving her calls, things are much quieter around here for me…

I was however awaken last night by the cries of “Oh God, Oh God, Oh God” Turns out that eric finally tapped Jess… the sorry part of this, it was Eric yelling “Oh God” Jess looked bored… and he only lasted only 1minute 55 Seconds… So I was able to get back to sleep pretty quick…

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David September 7, 2007 at 9:31 am

D & D were talking about how much America likes them, Dani wants to read all the blogs to see the comments about them…America likes Dick but Danielle is in for a shock!! In fact last night America voted for Eric to try and get dani out..HAHAH

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Evil Dick haters, get a life.... September 7, 2007 at 9:32 am

Hey folks for the umpteeenth time, it’s a freakin’ game.

The downside for me for BB as well as Survivor is that the shows turn into whine fests. I almost never watch the finale shows cause all you listen to is, “You lied to me, blah, blah, blah….”

Save for Evil Dick, this year’s BB would rank up there as about the worst of all the BBs. Between Whamber, amERICas player’s facial expressions, jameikacrit, (I miss the organ music when she prayed on camera, and then cussed like a sailor), they were enough to ruin the show.

If Zack is smart and I think he is, he will want to be sitting against Dick in the final two. In that case, Zack wins hands down.

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 9:33 am

Jameka and Zach HAVE to know that D&D will always vote for each other so strategically they have to get one of them out and that would be Dani. That is the scenario for one of them to be in the final two. As far as D&D go, they have a much better chance because they are so good at the game and they are an automatic vote for each other. I stand firm, wanting the final two to be Dick and Zach.

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GOD September 7, 2007 at 9:34 am

Dani wants to read all the blogs to see the comments about them…

DANI CAN READ??? Wow, go figure…

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 9:35 am

God, just picturing that is enough to make me “throw up in my mouth”, LOL

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Natvtxn September 7, 2007 at 9:35 am

Loved how Zack basically “sold” himself to Jameka and begged her to let him have 2nd place since thats all the $ he would need to buy his scuba gear and get DolphinCrash running!

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Donna K. September 7, 2007 at 9:36 am

eric talked to the wrong person about dani……….he was chatting up dick………. LOL

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Natvtxn September 7, 2007 at 9:45 am

*OMG! Did you see Zacks and Jamekas face when they were packing Erics Scummed shorts? Cant wait till Eric sees that tidbit! But knowing Eric, he’ll be Proud of it!

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 9:47 am

DAvid, thanks for having my back. Us “dot-mil-er’s” got’s to stick together…

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 9:48 am

Natvtxn, was this last night or on live feeds this morning?

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Natvtxn September 7, 2007 at 9:50 am

Eric said that to Dick cuz he was trying to at least insert the last AC! Didnt get any $ for that one tho. But I was wondering how he would get his last one in!

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 9:50 am

Ok Vivian, I’m off to the store. I’ll burn you a copy. Anybody else want one while I’m there?

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GOD September 7, 2007 at 9:50 am

I would have thought they would send in a HAZMAT team in their Bio-Suites to pack out Eric’s sutff..

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GOD September 7, 2007 at 9:51 am

EET, don’t forget the Juice Boxes… They have become pretty populau with the kids…

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Natvtxn September 7, 2007 at 9:53 am

Jameka and Zack were packing Erics stuff during ShowTime2. It was funny!

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Vegasgirl September 7, 2007 at 9:55 am

Dani is such an ungrateful, whinny brat! Dick and dani kicked butt tonight and all she could do was whine. YOu just don’t unerstaaaaaand! This sucks, this sucks, this sucks. He r attitude of it was unfair for her but she never complains when she wins, gets what she wants, stc. She has been following Zach around like a lap dog and now she is pissed. She had Zach wrapped around her little finger. Get over yourself and thank your dad or at the very least be some what grateful. I am sorry but I am sooo over her, (LOL her words). I know a lot of people will disagree (as this is just a game) but I still can feel that their attitude in the game (Dani and Jam) are the reason I do not want them to win. Given the remaining HG I am for Zach or Dick and frankly an abusive bully winning is hard for me to say but he has a lot of redeaming quilities and a good heart where as IMHO Jam and Dani still need to find. I am shocked to be wating Zach or dick to win but I do. Dani has got to get some life lessons so she can be happy (on the inside) and have a good life. Dani is Dani’s own worst enemy as were many of us till we grew up and learned better.

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Vegasgirl September 7, 2007 at 9:57 am

Yes, Zach won HOH

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David September 7, 2007 at 9:58 am

I have been thinking about the Jen Sequestor thing…I am wondering…

Maybe she refused to go to sequestor (as we all suspect) so BB told her that they will have the SIX members vote and in the event of a tie she will have to vote the tie breaker. Since she is not in sequestor they cannot show anything from the S House.

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Natvtxn September 7, 2007 at 9:58 am

Im at the adult table! Guess Im gonna have to a beer run for us! Any one have a quarter?

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 9:59 am

Eric did the wrong thing when he did not agree with Jessica’s gut to put the double D’s up.

Dani is going to be really shock to say the least to find out what America really thinks about her. Maybe it will be bring about life changes for her being as she is so young she still as time to figure this life thing out … oh man there goes that momma bear in me again … can’t help but feel sorry for her.

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David September 7, 2007 at 10:01 am

ED wins BB8, uses the money to launch his polical career…PRESIDENT EVIL DICK!!

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David September 7, 2007 at 10:02 am

Of course if ED wins the Presidency then EET needs to run for Governor in Florida!!
I will vote for ya

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Natvtxn September 7, 2007 at 10:04 am

GOD? UH…since you come first, you get to make the first chandelier rule. Make it a good one!

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 10:07 am

well why not David … we have had a tricky Dick we might as well have a evil one

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Natvtxn September 7, 2007 at 10:07 am

WHAT?! You dont like Crist!?

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 10:11 am

will chad be voting in that one david ???

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 10:12 am

sorry …. that was a badddddddddddddd old joke … but could not help myself

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 10:20 am

well I don’t like it when people play that ” broken family ” card … because a lot of us come from broken homes … with only one parent … you have to have someone in your family though that can be a positive influence on you and Dani must not have had this … so Dasani I hope she will learn from this experience … in fact I hope that all of the HG will learn something new from this .

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Vegasgirl September 7, 2007 at 10:21 am

That would be something fantastic. Dani could eather put the past in the past and let the family start fresh ( if she can) what she needs to know is holding these feelings, grudges, etc are hurting her more then anyone else. I just do not know if she can as she wears the poor me as a badge of honor. She could also go to get professional help with her family as Dick suggested but I do not know if she will get it and want better or if she will shut down with this poor me, you just don’t understand attitude. Little does she get it that many of us understand only to well.

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Evil Dick haters, get a life.... September 7, 2007 at 10:27 am

I know this is kinda off subject, but I almost hurled last night when Jamekacrit said she wanted to win BB for her nieces and nephews……gag! Talk about reaching…………

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Natvtxn September 7, 2007 at 10:27 am

Dont see that happening to Dani any time soon. She has too much growing up to do. Right now she is too self centered and all she is banking on is ESCAPING to Serengeti with Nick! MAYBE when she is closer to her 30’s. Plus Dick is going to have to “bend” a little too! But who cares? Everyone has a full plate! Thats why we are here…to escape…bv of course we are STILL THE CHOSEN ONES! BB said so himself!

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Donna K. September 7, 2007 at 10:31 am

does anyone know if dani is a waitress at Dick’s bar?……….now wouldn’t that be something?………..i feel sorry for her really, and yeah she’s just using daddy, til the end of the game……..at least dick is trying to make amends, but when is he gonna wake up…….but then its hard to give up on your daughter, close or not…….pleaseeeeeeeee let dick or dani win POV……..thats their only hope at this point……….

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 10:33 am

Donna K … I agree with you on a lot of points except Dick or Dani winning POV … I WANT DANI to leave next eviction. Not that I want to see Jameka in the final … but I will take the lesser of the two evils.

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Rocklives September 7, 2007 at 10:38 am

Dani works at Hooters. I thought.

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GOD September 7, 2007 at 10:39 am

I too hope that Dani learns something from all this… the sorry part is, if somehow she walks with the big $$$, this will just feed her Me Me Me attitude and reconnecting with the family will not be on her list of things to do…

If on the other hand, Dick wins the big $$$, Dani I am sure will stick around to bleed off her share… the funny part, 500K after taxes will not go very far in LA… So unless they have some financial discipline, I can see them burning through the money pretty fast…

The bottom line is, I can only see Dani working out her issues with the help of some serious family counseling which Dick has offered to do…

I do not like this girl, but I do wish her well in fixing this…

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Natvtxn September 7, 2007 at 10:46 am

I just wonder if Nick is really going to take her back once he sees how immature she really is? I hope he’s prepared to see how co dependent she is going to be. He might have bitten off more than he can chew And he better be prepared to spend a lot of $ on her! Mostly on shavers! She is very High Maintenance! Cant wait to see her face when Zack puts her up! Paybacks a B$tch! SHE CAN DISH IT BUT NOT TAKE IT! What a User!

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Serbbral September 7, 2007 at 10:47 am

To say that whether Jameka was cheated is a mute point is just plain WRONG. The truth of the matter is that Jameka was in the lead before Zach and it could have been her game. Just because one does not like a player does not mean that the player should be treated unjustly. WRONG is just WRONG, if her being cheated upon really happened. I don’t care if it was the Grinch that stole Christmas.

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 10:52 am

you know I was thinking the same thing it is JUST a 1/2 mil … so that will not last long with the cost of living in cali .. who knows maybe she can take part of the winnings and go to school so maybe one day she can manage that HOOTERS.

Seriously guys most the HG this year would benefit from some counceling.

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 10:53 am

HoH does not carry the weight in this week’s eviction. It will be the PoV.

If D&D are put on the block and either wins…Jameka goes on and the sole vote of whichever D comes off evicts Jameka.

If one of the Ds is put on with Jameka, the sole vote is the other D.

PoV baby…carries the weapon of choice for this week. All the power.

I really do want to see a Dick/Zach F2.

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GOD September 7, 2007 at 10:56 am

It would sure be nice if BB could do a follow up interview with her boy-friend Kris and get his opinion of her right now… Now that guy is who I feel sorry for… Every day he has to go out into the real world where people know him and have probably have been paying attention to the show because of Dani… He can try telling people that she’s just playing the game, but some of this stuff with Nick can’t be explained away that easy… If I were in his place, I would cut my losses and let Nick have her…

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 10:59 am

I second that Piratress … lets hope that Zach wins the POV …that way he will control it all …. now that would be a sweet .

When will the POV be held this week ?????

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 11:06 am

What Kris needs to do is have her stuff put in storage alongwith an item or two of his he doesn’t really care about…to make sure that their things are still intermingled legally. Find out the laws in Calif. and see if they have lived together long enough to split her earnings (for living in the BB house and Sequester when she goes there) and any other winnings…forbid she should take 2nd or 1st.

I believe they have had a residence together long enough to qualify him for half.

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 11:09 am

Vegasgirl, you are speaking for me girl!!!!! I feel exactly the same way. I cannot believe I am actually saying I want Dick to win but I do. I want Dick and Zach in the F2. Piratress, you are so right. D&D have a huge advantage. All we can hope is that Zach or Jam wins POV. Very crucial.

And guys, I am playing both sides cuz I want beer and a juice box!!!

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GOD September 7, 2007 at 11:12 am

Now Zach has not impressed me with any smarts at all… Soooooo, should he win PoV, and D&D are on the block… Do ya think he might use it to put Jamika in the line of fire??? I mean he has already made the dumbest move in entire history of BB… Dani’s best bet is to limit the blood flow to his brain… and she knows how to do that…

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Evil Dick haters, get a life.... September 7, 2007 at 11:15 am

God, you have failed to cure my memory loss problems, what exactly is the dumb move that Zack made?

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 11:17 am

why would he put them both up … just to take one down … now that WOULD be a dumb move

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GOD September 7, 2007 at 11:21 am

Because Zach is Dumb… and worked over by Dani… after last nights PoV, Iam not assuming anything when it concerns Zach… he is without a clue…

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Donna Rose September 7, 2007 at 11:22 am

Dani’s boyfriend already got rid of her stuff, sold her dog and moved out. That ought to make you all feel really happy. Dani is immature in many ways, and she is a vocal whinoserous which shows it, but the others are worse because they hide and fake who they are. I’d rather hang out with Dani than Jessica. If you want to talk about spoiled…it’s Jessica. Look at her behavior toward Eric when she was on the block telling him, “It should be you.” Parenthetically, she meant, “It should be you because I’m better than you.” Sadly Dani’s desire to WIN has clouded much of who she probably really is outside this house. This game changes people and they behave differently when trying to win 500K than they would in the real world being a waitress, bar manager, teacher or entertainment consultant. The jury house is far more immature and childish than Dani. As I’ve said before, Dick & Daniele are the same people today as they were week one in that house. I would still love to see them in the final 2 with Dick winning the whole thing. =^^=

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Evil Dick haters, get a life.... September 7, 2007 at 11:23 am

Oh, I don’t know about that, it would seem to me that Zach has nicely positioned himself to be in the final two.

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 11:24 am

SherreLu, I just installed the new software. Let me know if it works or not.

I say Zach puts up Jamekacrite and ED, Dani wins POV, doesn’t use it of course, and votes out Jam.

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Evil Dick haters, get a life.... September 7, 2007 at 11:28 am

Evils Evil…..Only if that’s God’s will……………

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EET'S WIFE September 7, 2007 at 11:30 am

I found you and you’re not returning my calls or e-mails and I read what you wrote about my farts. You can pay for that one later. Did you call the RV place? And who the hell is SherreLu?

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GOD September 7, 2007 at 11:30 am

Jamika better win the PoV, that’s all I know… She has demonstrated she can compete and was in the running last night before someone other than “GOD” put a blue ball in her tube… if she can stop ED and Hell Spawn from “Blue Balling” her during the PoV, then she will have a chance…

As far as F2, at this point, my motto is gonna be ABD (Anyone But Dan)

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Evil Dick haters, get a life.... September 7, 2007 at 11:35 am

We all saw just one feed on the blue ball issue, BB must have a dozen cams running on that backyard at all times. I don’t believe for a moment that they don’t have any angle on all of the tubes. If ED cheated I think he would have been called on it….

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 11:35 am

I think Dani is a great BB player. As I said, the F4 are there because of choices they made. All 4 deserve to be there. I’ve always felt that way with BB or Survivor, etc. Whoever makes it to a final status deserves it.

Now, with the above said. My own preference is for a Dick/Zach final 2 because of Dick’s consistent strategic plays and his dominating influence worked. Zach has made key clutch wins. Jameka has no real enemies and Dani has done great in comps. So, it’s just a matter of ‘personal’ preference now. Mine happens to be Dick/Zach due to the pressure and composure during the double evict night.

What Kris is doing would be his personal choice and only he and Dani know what agreement they had as b/f…g/f… going into the game. If Dani crossed lines and it sure looks like she went outside of acceptable parameters…then, Kris is doing what he feels is right.

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me September 7, 2007 at 11:36 am

I find it funny how people rag on Dani when she is being her spoiled ranting ways! But when she is winning, everyone jumps on her band-wagon saying how great she is, face it folks, she is an adult, she is who she is and will always be who she is to a large degree, a selfish, self-centered, high maintenance wannabe who figures the world owes her everything and she owes nothing!

As for Dick, he isn’t evil, he is simply a pig and a lowlife as his actions towards people and his vulgar actions have shown! That being said, on one hand I hope he wins second place, he deserves at least that for playing for 2 and for having to deal constantly with his wacko daughter! But on the other hand, I hope both he and Dani leave with nothing as that is what they truly deserve by taking things for granted and thinking they are superior to everyone else in gamesmanship, they blew that in true fashion last night! They proved they are chicken to face strong competition which lowlifes tend to do, and boy did they get just deserves by Zack winning 3 of 4 competitions!
So will Dani do her puckering up to press her lips against Zack’s butt once again?
Sitting back and watching the feeds, one thing is apparent, that we see much of what the HG’s see and hear, and even though Zack stepped his game up, he failed miserbly in his gamesmanship by not using his POV to backdoor Dani! His POV speech definately sounded as though it wasn’t by his choosing in his use or not use of the veto, he was acting as though he was instructed by BB!
So for ratings sake, BB kept the D/D’s to the final 4, will it be rigged for them to make it all the way or till final 3?
Don’t they deserve to be called to the mat and be treated by Jam and Zack the same way they treated everyone else in this game?
Wouldn’t it be simply grand if the two floaters of the season won out over the two so called strategic players (NOT) of the season?
Wouldn’t it be a dream seeing Jameka and Dick in the final 2 and Dick losing out to Jameka in the end, wouldn’t the look on his face be priceless?

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kim September 7, 2007 at 11:40 am

I agree it’s Dani’s time to go, winning this show would be so bad for her. Dick needs to win and send her to some counseling Zach can come in 2nd since that’s all he really wants anyway. Jam will be just fine with the $$ she gets just for being there so long. I was a ED fan from day 1, I think BB9 shouldn’t have anyone in the house under the age of 40! That would really be a game of BB.

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Big-Brother September 7, 2007 at 11:40 am

The next poll is up on the sidebar….

Q: Are you happy with the final 4 houseguests?

A: Yes, No, Kinda or (add your own answer)

Enjoy!!

BBBlogger

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 11:41 am

EET … nope didn’t feel a thing … you must have had a corrupt install … you will have to call tech support to assist you with that problem.

it’s gonna be Zach and Jameka … final two …. you watch … betcha

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 11:45 am

ME … just to be clear … I for one have never been on Dani side I have disliked her from the start.

Should have been JEDD alliance til the end …

Karma is a funny thing …. what goes around comes around … Dick may have given up the cash when he double crossed J&E .

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 11:47 am

Well, if it really IS Zach and Jam in the final 2, I’m pulling for Zach to take home the bucks. Unfortunately THAT jury won’t vote for him over Jamekacrite.

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GOD September 7, 2007 at 11:49 am

Evil Dick haters —

The dumb move Zach made was not using the PoV!!!

That old saying that Blood is thicker then water was never more true when it comes to D&D… Be it the F4 or F3, zach is playing agains two who are working as one!!! the odds are stacked against him in that respect… By getting rid of Dani last night when he could have, he would have evened out the playing field… Now everyone could still try to form alliances to get further on, but EVERYONE would hve had to work at it… As it is now, this alliance is as solid as they come and if you hope to make F2, you need to break it!!!

Dumb Dumb Dumb (non)Move last night by Zach!!!

Dumest in the history of BB IMHO of course…

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Big-Brother September 7, 2007 at 11:50 am

Do you think we will be able to have America’s Player cast the vote for who wins the money via the Jury? That would be kind of cool to control one of the 9 votes.

Hmmmm??

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Lisa September 7, 2007 at 11:51 am

The only one there NOT because of HER choices is Jameka – she is there because she has had a FREE ride on the choices of everyone else – she has slipped in under the radar and does not deserve a dime! She is the ONLY one – Jessica left – so HER dead weight is gone. If Jameka goes any further – which I don’t think she will if everyone’s plans fall into place – it would be a travesty!

The pathetic show Dani put on yesterday after loosing to Zach, to ME, classifies her as a candidate for kindergarten – NOT a winner in this game. She is SUCH a spoiled “little miss princess” and torchers her dad!! That all being said Dick and Zach DESERVE the final 2 – operative word – DESERVE – meaning they have worked and planned scenerios – not whined and kissed ass (well maybe a smooch here and there, lol) to get where they are – the two of them are TRUE players of this game – hope it’s them.

MY OPINION

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 11:52 am

I think Zach is questioning the fact that he don’t believe he can get the votes against the double D’s … and he may think that he can against Jameka …

he would have Dani …Dick … Jen … (assuming she is there ) and maybe Eric if America votes

Does anyone know if America gets to vote for ERIC in the final ????

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Donna Rose September 7, 2007 at 11:52 am

This is not a game about honesty, integrity or morality. No one makes it as far as these final 4 without breaking all of those, which they ALL did. So did all those in the jury house and those that went home.

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 11:53 am

BB Blogger you bet me to the punch … lol….

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Big-Brother September 7, 2007 at 11:53 am

Hey God, (I feel like I am praying)

I am interested to understand how Zach made a poor move. If he used the POV…would Zach had not gone up instead of Dani…giving Dani still a vote and thus having worst case scenario a TIE and then ED would have eliminated whomever he chose. Basically….when ED won HoH last night…he secured DD in the final 2.

That is my take. Your thoughts?

BBBlogger

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 11:54 am

oops …. typo …. beat me to the punch …

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Big-Brother September 7, 2007 at 11:56 am

Sorry SherreLu….thought just struck me as I was thinking about the next post on the blog. My guess is no….but who knows….he IS America’s Player. It would meet a couple goals…

1. Having more interested by America in who wins. (which should mean a little more ratings)
2. Giving Eric a chance to get a few more dollars (maybe)

I am not sure if he will go to the jury house yelling….I am America’s Player. If BB told him to keep that info confidential then maybe he could still be USED.

Just a thought…

BBBlogger

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GOD September 7, 2007 at 11:58 am

If Zach would have used the poV on Jamika then dani would have gone up… I think Jamika would have voted Dani out, but ya never know… In getting Dani put up on the block, that would tell me that Zach had a clue and was ready to vote her out, but again, ya never know… but put in that position, I say ya gotta take control and make a move…

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me September 7, 2007 at 12:00 pm

The only interesting thing about Dani during this entire season was Dick’s ability to deal with her!
I get the feeling that when the discussion between D&D in the gym last week when Dick said “us to the final 2 and we split the money” and Dani’s lightening fast response of “NO” took all the wind out of Dick’s sails!

Every week till last night, Dani would spew out her ideas and Dick would play along with them till the last minute and then he’d change her mind to the sound choice to make strategically, but last night, he didn’t and instead followed her route this week which showed his head isn’t really in the game anymore!

The only pleasure in seeing D/D making it to the end would be their speeches to the jury for why they deserve to win the 500 grand, and any bets Dani would totally destroy Dick in her verbal attack to win it all?

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 12:01 pm

Dani unstable??? I don’t think so. She’s 21. At 21 I was working, as she is, as a waitress in a place similar to Hooters. I acted childish at times and was flighty with boyfriends. It’s called hormonal surges and how we deal with it. I can’t say I was any better or worse than Dani at that age.

I’ve gone through my phases with organized religion as Jameka. It just happened that I saw most organized religion for what it showed..it’s materialistic value. Some churches aren’t like that. I grew out of my ‘Jameka’ stage and developed a very personal relationship with God/Jesus. I do believe IF Jameka wins, her family and community will benefit from it. Probably more so than any of the other F4. I’ve ragged on Jameka and she got on my nerves; however, in reality she is no less deserving of winning and more so than several in the SH and at least as much as the others in the F4.

Zach…. no telling what he will do with the money. But, he made absolute calm key plays to win when he needed it. And, when in college, there were times I was a female version of the party side of Zach. Few time granted because my body doesn’t tolerate alcohol well…so, not a big drinker. But, I did my share of moments which went down in the history of the bar I regularly hung out with my friends. Oh…and, I didn’t enter college till I was 40.

Dick… Heck, the man is a competitor…mentally mostly. I just don’t see him giving too much of it at all to Dani. He probably would agree to use it for counseling if both attended and he’d give family/friends some…using the rest to build his own business. Like Dick, I went through the spiked/colored hair…right after college.

My Point: I am no better nor worse than any of them in the F4.

I can’t identify with Wamber or Dustin though. For that I thank my lucky stars and feel blessed indeed!

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 12:01 pm

Did JC hint at something else that might involve AP in the finale during Eric’s exit interview last night ? I was so disappointed about J&E I didn’t catch it all .

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GOD September 7, 2007 at 12:04 pm

Betting Dani would toss Dick under the bus then gather up the remains to toss under a train in order to win??? Talk about a sure bet!!!

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Wendy September 7, 2007 at 12:13 pm

And you think Dick wouldn’t do the same? Come on, they’re playing for the money!

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 12:15 pm

crap….the old lady found me…

No Sweetheart, I haven’t called the RV dealer yet. HELLO, KINDA BUSY BLOGGING RIGHT NOW….is the frickin laundry done yet? What about the lawn? I filled the mower with gas for you already.

JEEZZ……..

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 12:16 pm

Wendy, Dick would NEVER toss Dani under the train. He’ll throw himself under it first, like he did weeks ago getting everybody to hate him so they’d vote him out over her…

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Jalawa September 7, 2007 at 12:17 pm

I was sooo sorry to see E&J go. I only have a minute, but I said it before and I’ll say it again, I think Eric is one of the best players in the house this year. And if he wants to blame his downfall on the AP crap then I say LET HIM. Lastly, if the either of the Donatos win, I will be boycotting BB…
until next summer anyway.

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Vegasgirl September 7, 2007 at 12:17 pm

I could not help how upset a post was about little dani and the others are worse. NOT in mant of our opinons. No one can tell me how to judge this game that the put on TV for just that ( and profit). I do not think Dani deserves to win, I do think it would help her or her life, I do not like how she treats others, or herslf. Are there others with issues, HELL YES. Of those left all four and I personally would never turn down help to improve my life but Dani is a very troubled young lady and treats people horrible. So, we do have the right to say she has been a great player, she has had a great amount of help from others in the house, and she is an ungrateful brat at this point. That does not mean I think others are perfect but I do find more redeeming qualities in the others way more then Dani. I do not pick Dick or Zach to win easily but that is how others and myself want to choose and others may choose by game play only. What ever I am not going to say way of picking is better then another but I also won’t get mad at them.

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Vegasgirl September 7, 2007 at 12:22 pm

The more I think about it the more I think Eric did a great job. He is was against a giant red flag to the others and could not vote people out as he saw fit.

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 12:26 pm

bam, MOST of the 21 year olds that I know are far from being mature about ANYTHING, so neener neener neener

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GOD September 7, 2007 at 12:26 pm

Does the Jury get to see any of the DR videos… Dani stating on numerous ocasiosn how she hates these people can only help get her votes… right??? they would understand… it’s her gameplay… yeah, her superior gameplay…

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 12:29 pm

I’d bet that any of Dick’s friends would have his back in a heartbeat…knowing he would have theirs. And, remember…Dick’s wife abandoned him and Dani. Dani lived with Dick’s parents. They have been in communiation…it came out in conversations. It was BB who played up the 2 year lack thereof. Not Dick or Dani. Each of them told the circumstances…which didn’t jive with the hype BB presented.

Jen started derogatory remarks about Dick right from the get go based solely on his looks. Jen got in Dick’s face so she put herself in the direct line of Dick’s smoking then, complained about it. That’s when Dick blew the smoke at Jen. Jen slapped cigarettes out of his hand. Dick pours a glass of tea on her head. Is that as dangerous as what she did to him? No where close.
What if one of the cigarettes Jen slapped at had landed in Dick’s lap or any body part and burned him? Or, on anyone else sitting next to Dick. Is that AOK simply because she is female?????

You think any Reality TV show is going to choose all goodie goodies.. with no controversy in their past? Nope.

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 12:32 pm

GOD, I seem to recall that the jury HAS seen diary room stuff sometimes. Of course it’s edited by BB just like what WE get.

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 12:34 pm

bam, are you related to Ronjj?

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me September 7, 2007 at 12:35 pm

Read some posts about Erics whining when he left, I actually thought Eric did a good job when he was evicted!
Since we don’t know if it was an option or a choice for him to be AP on the show, but it seems to appear he had no choice in being it, since he never got to refuse the AP choices made, if he could have foregone the money from AP and played the game and only done the AP if he chose, as his talk with JC sort of said it would have been a different game with him!
He does deserve some credit in how he handled himself, although he could have down played things when Jess was HOH and let her evict D/D as she wanted to do!
After all, he threw HOH’s to not be put into positions of nominating AC’s! Think he caught wind in the begining couple of weeks the AC’s were messing with him and against his alliances and thus he knew the AC’s were messing his chances in the game from the onset!

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Donna Rose September 7, 2007 at 12:35 pm

Piratress, I agree with your post. Although I was not an immature 21 year old or flighty with boyfriends, I know many people in their 40’s who behave worse than Dani or Jessica. Vegasgirl, you’re obviously referring to my post which reflects MY opinion. Because it doesn’t agree with yours, I’m wrong?

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Wendy September 7, 2007 at 12:35 pm

“my point is, when things are going the way Dick wants them to go he is a happy camper and nice to everyone… it is only when things are not going the way he wants he throws his BIG BOY Fits JUST LIKE IS DAUGHTER DANI!!!”

Are you freakin’ serious? So you’re telling me that if you were hoping for something but then it doesn’t happen, you wouldn’t be upset AT ALL? Yeah, excuse me if I don’t believe you.

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 12:37 pm

Bam,

The perception of being an adult is viewed by most on maturity level. Legally, it varies from state to state. So, based on a factual premise, you are wrong.

Oh… thanks for the compliment. Being strange is my goal. Glad to know it is recognized.

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Wendy September 7, 2007 at 12:45 pm

But, see I’m 19, right, I consider myself matured, I have responsibilities that although I may not like it, I still have to deal with them but I don’t consider myself an adult at all. So…damn! I lost my train of thought. Dammit. Argh.

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me September 7, 2007 at 12:47 pm

Piratress, get your facts straight, Jen was sitting outside eating (even though not allowed to but was her retalliation against BB) and Dick came out and walked up to her deliberately and blew smoke in her face!
Jen at the onset of the game did make a statement about Dick, but it was following one of Dick’s perverted ones about having close contact competitions, and maybe you’d like to have an old worn out dried up punk wanna be like Dick rubbing against you, she didn’t and said so!
As for the Iced Tea, if Dick did that to say Zack, and Zack retalliated and beat the crap out of Dick, you’d probably be still standing up for Dick and saying Zack should have been evicted for beating up Dick….lol
And your constant defence of Dani and it due to her age, get a grip, she is on a show and under a microscope and she has exhibited her real self and your defence of her all the time because of her age, obviously compounds the reasons why she doesn’t deserve to win anything, BECAUSE OF HER AGE!

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Wendy September 7, 2007 at 12:47 pm

Bam, every damn person deals with their problems differently. So he threw a fit; who the hell cares? It’s HIS PROBLEM. And his response to not getting his way is a chilish fit according to YOU, to anyone else it might be perfectly understandable.

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 12:47 pm

damn, starting to sound like a catfight in here……….

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Wendy September 7, 2007 at 12:48 pm

*childish. ugh!

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Donna Rose September 7, 2007 at 12:49 pm

So…bam…I see you shortened your name…are you still with Pebbles? 🙂 Anyway, I think Wendy means that stuff in life pisses us off and not all of us handle anger the same way. Dani tends to beat herself up more than anyone when she loses competitions. Her anger was toward herself and she took it out on BB and the treadmill and didn’t handle her anger gracefully at all. Graceful isn’t part of this game unless it’s a balance competition.

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Wendy September 7, 2007 at 12:51 pm

That’s my damn point! Just because a person is of a certain age DOES NOT mean they’re matured, hell, a 14 year old could be more matured then a 30 year old, you see what I’m saying?

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Wendy September 7, 2007 at 12:53 pm

Oh, I didn’t see your comment until after I posted.

Bam, baby, I’m calm, I’m not upset about this at all. I’m sorry it seemed that way.

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 12:53 pm

I’m 50 and act like I’m 12 most of the time.

I’m just saying…

Donna Rose, the NEXT HoH competition will be the parallel bars….

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Donna Rose September 7, 2007 at 12:54 pm

No, a temper tantrum is what you’re doing because people are disagreeing with you.

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Wendy September 7, 2007 at 12:54 pm

Donna R, Bam’s right – thanks, honey.

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 12:54 pm

David, where the hell are you?!?!?!? bam is picking on your sister.

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AFather September 7, 2007 at 12:55 pm

Can someone explain how Zack got to be HOH. I thought the ball comp. was for POV?

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 12:57 pm

AFather, there was another HoH comp between the live show and the SHowtime AD feeds. Not sure what kind of comp it was, but Zach won.

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AFather September 7, 2007 at 12:58 pm

OH, thanks, i am surprised they didnt show that. At least save it for Showtime Too. They missed a ratings opportunity.

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Wendy September 7, 2007 at 12:59 pm

Bam, really, did I not say I wasn’t mad, can you not understand that? Take my word for it and drop it, k? thanks.

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AFather September 7, 2007 at 1:02 pm

When will Zack nominate two HGs? I take it, he is considering D&D?

If it is D&D, does Jameka vote alone?

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AFather September 7, 2007 at 1:08 pm

My guess is that Jen is NOT at the SH. I cant think of any reason they are not showing it. They havent decided how they are going to address it.

I cant think of any other reason because the SH was always interesting to BB Fans

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Big-Brother September 7, 2007 at 1:12 pm

Vegasgirl…I agree. Eric honestly did an amazing job. He went in as a puppet and was still able to manipulate and move around as independent as he could be.

Coming in 5th is amazing….and he could have gone farther if not for Jessica and America’s Player.

Only thing would be if he would have used the VETO and pulled the trigger on the D’s. Basically it ended up being the D’s pulled the trigger first and they won because of that. Jess and Eric could have done the SAME THING and they would both be in the house still. (speculating of course!)

Peace, BBBlogger

**please keep the conversation to Big Brother please…no need to turn my blog into an insult shop! I have not started editing comments but I will if needed! Thanks!**

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 1:14 pm

me said,

Ahhh… did I excuse Dani due to her age…OR.. did I present examples of various age groups and how I, personally, identified with them. HUGE difference.

Jen slapped the cigs and pressed her face into the smoke BEFORE the incident you spoke of…where Jen was outside eating regular at the time of her suppose to be on slop.

I’m not defending anyone. I’m not winning/in play for the money. But, I do prefer facts versus a mishmash of events taken out of sequence which makes something appear one way when it is actually the other.

Every one of the HGs, as usual, have acted in ways we don’t agree with. It’s TV. A show. Entertainment. None of us know exactly how we would react being cooped up in a house with that many other people, no outside contact…AND, half a million bux on the line. We can say we know how we would. But, we don’t know for absolute sure. That’s the only absolute REAL reality of Reality Tv.

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 1:15 pm

okay since we have to go through an eviction … another POV …. and a final HOH and eviction … what is the schedule ? Does anyone know ?

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AFather September 7, 2007 at 1:18 pm

It is easy to speculate as what would happen if Eric was not the AP. We will never know. Who knows, maybe Nick would have stayed and targetted Eric early on, or Maybe Dustin would have gone after Eric. The AP didnt make Eric win or lose, it just added a different aspect to the game.

Take for instance the AP position itself. In the past the other HGs know who the AP was and what the AP won. This often caused the HG to be targetted, whether becasue of jealousy or just the attention they got.

I bet if the HGs know Eric was winning money, they would have booted him out a long time ago.

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Big-Brother September 7, 2007 at 1:18 pm

Tues is Live Eviction. Down to 3
Tues is probably the HOH after Live Eviction and probably an endurance thing.
Wed would be Veto??
Thur last live eviction. Down to 2.
Week until the finale.

That would be my guesses.

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 1:18 pm

Yes, whoever is not on the block this elimination is the only vote. HoH cannot vote. Two noms. cannot vote. That’s why the PoV carries the ultimate power this time.

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 1:19 pm

BB blogger ITA with you about Eric … not many people here will admit to Eric’s excellent game play given the things he had to do as AP against his personal opinions … so Props to Eric .

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Donna K. September 7, 2007 at 1:19 pm

did anyone else catch eric’s comments about jessica when he left julie? something about her being dead by shark attack?……..hahaah that was pretty funny, so much for the “real” feelings”……………..eric is a douche………..

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AFather September 7, 2007 at 1:20 pm

If Tues is the live Evic. who is and when are the noms. and is there a POV

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Big-Brother September 7, 2007 at 1:20 pm

AFather….i agree. If he was not things could have been different and not better.

Bottom line he was a great player and was able to spin any of the AP tasks. I thought it was a cool twist and made the game fun.

AP or not…he made a mistake to Not use the VETO and not backdoor Dick or Dani.

That is why he is out of the house. (my opinion)

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 1:20 pm

thanks BB Blogger for the rundown

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 1:22 pm

Donna K the comment Eric made about “dead by shark attack” was refering to Jen. and it was relating a bashing converstion they where having this past week.

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Big-Brother September 7, 2007 at 1:22 pm

SherreLu…..I do not know for sure…those are my educated guesses. The 2 live evictions were announced last night on the show. So those are for sure.

Hope it helps.

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AFather September 7, 2007 at 1:26 pm

They are still offereing 14 days free, with less than 14 days remaining in the program????? That is poor business planning.

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me September 7, 2007 at 1:28 pm

Big-Brother, JC said the final show was the 18th, a week Tuesday!

Tues is Live Eviction. Down to 3 -Right according to JC
Tues is probably the HOH after Live Eviction and probably an endurance thing. As in past years last HOH is a 3 parter!
Wed would be Veto?? No Veto in final 3, only eviction by the HOH next Thursday
Thur last live eviction. Down to 2.
Week until the finale.

Question becomes, is there another twist like previous years of maybe a HG returning or will a week Sunday be some boring show?

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 1:30 pm

PoV competition and ceremony
Eviction

After that it is 3 and whoever wins that competition gets to choose who goes to the F2

Jury votes and the Finale’.

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AFather September 7, 2007 at 1:31 pm

ME, thanks for the run down but there is something missing.

If Zack is HOH now, who is nominated and when is the POV. If the Live eviction is Tuesday is the non and POV this Sun?

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Evel Me September 7, 2007 at 1:35 pm

Its taken me most of the day to catch up on reading in between working…

Thanks BBBlogger for this friendly and yet diverse board. I think ya’ll have summed it all up pretty well.

I don’t want to rehash the Jen vs. Dick cigarette burn thing, but she could have eaten somewhere else, he can’t smoke in the house. She was NOT just innocently sitting there eating without any provocation. She was/is a piece of work.

I’m still hoping for a D&D finale, but that will be determined by the next couple of events so if not, I would pull for Dick vs. Zach, as I don’t think any of the other 3 left could beat Jamesus with the jury vote.

I hope AP does have to listen to us for his final vote. And for the first (and only) time I did feel sorry for J & E last night, the feeling passed and then I threw up a little in my throat, lol…I don’t think she’ll be smooching on him anymore but probably they will remain friends.

Also, I didn’t know there was an Evil Me also, so I’m Evel Me, and these are my opinions.

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me September 7, 2007 at 1:35 pm

Big Brother, question is, if Eric used the POV, it would be AC as to who he has to get put up in place and who he’d have to use it on, which we didn’t have a choice on when he won, as the choices to be put up were only between Dick or Dani, instead we got to chose who he was to kiss, wonder why it wasn’t our choice of using the POV, could it be the replacement would have been Dick or Dani?

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 1:36 pm

okay … now my head is spinning …. Zach is current HOH and has two noms right? So there will be POV for those noms … so when would the POV for Zachs noms be ?

Sadly I spend most of my time at work and they don’t allow us access to the live feeds so …no time to watch at home … so I try and catch some of BBAD and catch the updates on Jokers and mortys sites .

I think there will be a twist involving AP but not sure … I thought I caught something relating to that last night during Eric’s exit interview … but not sure.

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Russ September 7, 2007 at 1:42 pm

This will be my last and final post.

I am totally dissapointed at this years BB. This will be the last season that I watch. It has been a CBS production from the get-go. Rumor has it that several of the HG’s are plants, actors and that CBS has been setting the tone not the HG’s or America. And will someone please shoot Daniele, her whining is just to painful to listen to any longer. If she hates it that much in the BBH then leave, walk out the door and leave. But please will someone shut her up. She is the most spoiled brat I have ever seen and that is the point. Is she acting? Is Dick acting for the camera’s? Was Jen putting on a show just for CBS ratings? We will probably never know. Or will we?

At this point I don’t care who wins. One thing is for sure, I have had enough of CBS Reality Shows. I don’t even want to get involved in another for a long time. CBS is surely calling all the shots and have made a big mistake.

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Donna K. September 7, 2007 at 1:45 pm

THANKS SHERRELU……….. i still think it was funny and even more so now that it was JEN he was referring too,………..OK, so when is Noms? today???

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 1:47 pm

We know Zach is HoH from the live feeds/Showtime.
The show on Sunday will show this and nominations
Tuesday is the PoV meeting and eviction.

No Sunday nor Tuesday TV showing. Picks back up next Thursday for the Final HoH and who they choose to sit with them in the F2.

Finale on the 18th.

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jena holmes September 7, 2007 at 1:55 pm

This house is absolutely unbelievable!I CANNOT BELIEVE Dick & Dan are still in that house.Between Dan & her bad attitude & Dick with his constant spitting, they both “make me want to puke in my mouth”as Dan would say. I hope Jam does win.So what if she has spiritual beliefs.It shows that she has a damn heart which is more then anyone can say about anyone left in that house.
Although I do love Big Brother,the game is showing that nasty,mean,& absolutely heartless people can have a chance at winning this money.And that people sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Big-Brother September 7, 2007 at 1:56 pm

AFather….not really poor planning. They expect many people to sign up and NOT cancel. Sort of like the rebate that you forgot to send in.

Plus, they make you call to cancel and tell you that you shouldn’t….since they are going to REPLAY the entire 3 months of feeds….

Once they have your info…they use it to keep you as a subscriber.

I personally am not a fan of Real.Com but they are in charge of the feeds so I deal with them.

Peace, BBBlogger

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Evel Me September 7, 2007 at 1:58 pm

If Daniele is acting, she deserves an emmy. 🙂 This is my first year to watch so I don’t know what to compare this to. Sorry Russ, you must’ve been an E and Jess fan?

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 2:02 pm

I said no TV showings on Sunday and Tuesday…my bad. Sorry..

As for Noms.. that will happen either this afternoon or tomorrow. The PoV everyone will find out via the special Live show on Tuesday.

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AFather September 7, 2007 at 2:04 pm

Eric played a good game and Jess played an OK game but D&D are playing an excelent game.

You cant skate through and expect to win the game when you cant win an individual competition. “Wait, that is what Jamekas plan is”

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 2:07 pm

Russ, rumors schmumors…..

Every year it’s the same with the rumors “did ya hear this” “did you hear that”?

It’s been a CBS prodution from the get-go? Like duh already.

These are all real people (maybe even Jen).

and Evil Me, you are SO right. If Dani is acting, EMMY TIME!

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Big-Brother September 7, 2007 at 2:10 pm

** is anyone else getting Carpal Tunnel from hitting the refresh button? **

Just checking! 🙂

Peace, BBBlogger

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Donna K. September 7, 2007 at 2:13 pm

hey guys, its official, according to CBS- BB website……..Eric WILL be voting for who ameica wants to win!!!!

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 2:15 pm

Evel Me, OMG ROFL!!! Jamesus!!! That is the best thing I have heard yet. Please, please come up with something for Dani! I am throwing up in my mouth from her!!!!!

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 2:16 pm

BB Blogger, do you carry workmans comp? I might need to file a claim.

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 2:19 pm

bb blogger …. lol….. yea … I check back every few mins … in between … trying to get some work done … I hate when there has been a lot of posts and I have to read through twenty or so … then I get called away from my desk …. grrrrrrrrrrrr …. can’t they see I have to check in with my bb bloggers … lol…I don’t have time to assist them with their work related problems …. grrrrrrrrrrrr.

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 2:19 pm

Donna K, I really hate to do this to you, but I think Evil Me beat you out with Jamesus vs. Jamekacrite.

I hope you won’t hate me.

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Big-Brother September 7, 2007 at 2:19 pm

Donna K. Thanks for that info…Great stuff.

I agree Vivian….Evel Me creating the new nick name of Jamesus is funny….maybe a tad blasphemous but funny.

EET…all workman comp claims can be sent to AMERICASPLAYER @ CBS.COM! :p

You guys all ROCK!

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Donna K. September 7, 2007 at 2:20 pm

sooooooooooo, another BB twist in the game huh?………….eric’s job ain’t over, i wonder how he’s gonna pull that off, unless they have a DR vote as they have had, and JC tells him who to vote for…………..Dick still has a chance……..

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 2:20 pm

SherreLu, I think you need to get your priorities straight. There will ALWAYS be time for work.

by the way, I had the Geek Squad re-load the software. Anything?

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Big-Brother September 7, 2007 at 2:21 pm

SherreLu i have been in the same boat the past 2 weeks.

Next week I am back on nights so again….watching the site overnight (when you are all sleeping) and sleeping while you are all working and hanging out here.

I sure hope we can all hang out on Must-Read-TV (blog) or Must-See-TV (forums) once BB8 is completed. (2 of my other sites)

This has been a great blog and I owe it all to you (except you EET…you freak me out) (KIDDING!)

Peace, BBBlogger

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Donna K. September 7, 2007 at 2:21 pm

EET, i still think mine was better, but that was good too……..and i’d never hate ya…………..

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Donna K. September 7, 2007 at 2:22 pm

and i had it first……… hehehehe

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 2:23 pm

I felt blasphemous about a lot of this at first but I realize we are all using this in the spirit of fun and making fun!!!!!!!!! We are all the “Good People”!!!

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 2:23 pm

Donna K, Ok, well, I’ll use (in my best Zach voice) whatever one YOU want me to use.

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Donna K. September 7, 2007 at 2:23 pm

BBblogger, i’d like that too, and hey, we will have Survivor-China to talk about, right?

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Donna K. September 7, 2007 at 2:26 pm

oh goody EET………:)…………..

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Donna K. September 7, 2007 at 2:31 pm

zach told dani that they were going up……..i wonder if he’s just trying to get them to sweat it out……….but its pissing her off BIG time, LOL………this is from jokers updates, sorry, BBBlogger………..

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 2:32 pm

BB I thought EET was a freak at first but then I realized, that he really was!! Just joking! Love EET!!!

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 2:34 pm

yeah man …. SURVIVOR here I come ….. now there is a diverse group of people .

EET while you where with your tech support … I called in my redneck geek squad and they hooked me up with a anti – smack software so I can block your smacks . So I guess you have to upgrade now … lol …

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 2:35 pm

Vivian, OH YEAH?!?!?!

Well, you’re ALL RIGHT

I AM a freak.

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 2:37 pm

Yeah EET, but you are one of the “Good Freaks”!

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 2:38 pm

yeah donna k … I just read those updates too …. he seems to think that they neither of them would take him to the final …. duh…. ya think !!!

the best is that America gets to vote … in the finale … yea ….. we have a voice !!!!

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 2:38 pm

SherreLu, I told Piratress that I had never really watched Survivor, but everyone seems to love it, so I am game!

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Donna K. September 7, 2007 at 2:38 pm

yes it seems the donato’s are coming out swinging folks……….Zack ain’t buying any of Dani’s BS either…………..Zack would be nuts though to take jam to the F2

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Donna K. September 7, 2007 at 2:41 pm

if they did sherrelu, do you think the other HG hate dick, dani or zach the most?……..i’m glad we have a say in it though, but it will all hinge on who wins POV………..

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 2:46 pm

If Zach puts them BOTH up, then they win HoH, Jamekacrite’s GONE. (my alliance with Donna K is strong)

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 2:47 pm

look up “good freak” in websters, you’ll find my picture

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Donna K. September 7, 2007 at 2:48 pm

have a good weekend all, see ya monday AM………….will be verrrrrrry interesting………

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Donna K. September 7, 2007 at 2:49 pm

yes EET, we are……….. go dick & dani for POV!!!!!!

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 2:52 pm

I think that the HG may dislike Dick the most … but some may have sense enough to vote based on game play …. doubtfull …. emotions only here …people … except with ERICS vote and that will be based on popularity … and whose family votes the most. Zach the HG think that he really did not do anything … and was really annoying … Dani they do not know that she as said for weeks that she HATES these people … but I think they dislike dick the most .

It would have been wise for them to carry ERIC to the final that would have meant they for sure got the big prize …(he would have only got one vote from jess) but they D&D where afraid and now … look they are going up anyway. So like I said earlier Karma is a funny thing.

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 2:56 pm

EET…..ewww you’re hot!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!

love the “jamekacrite” but I just have to love “jamesus” better!

Anybody got anything for Dani yet???

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 2:57 pm

Vivian … come on girl … if you love BB you will love Survivor even more … that is where the real cut throats are . It makes these BB guys look like …. EDIT … well you get my drift .

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 2:59 pm

SherreLu, I am ready then cuz I love to hate those cut-throats! Actually am looking forward to it. Does it come on on Thursdays? I know the first year it was on it did, I think anyway.

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 3:04 pm

always thursdays … if you go to CBS I think you can find the new cast profiles … you know how old … where they are from and what they do … if married /single/kids etc.

it has been a long standing tradition with me and my husband to get pizza / beer and watch survivor on thursdays … Of course I usually start out by pulling for the old folks … they always have em … but this year I think the oldest in late 40s … I don’t think that is that old .

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 3:06 pm

HoH this time (Zach’s position) is absolutely worthless. Means nothing because it ALL comes down to PoV.

If Dick or Dani had won HoH, they put up Jameykins and Zacharoo. Jammy or Zachy win PoV, then either Dick or Dani would have to go up and Jam or Zac would vote out the D.

Same for Jammykins.

Either way a D of D&D will be in the Final 3. And, say it’s Jammy and Zachy as the other 2… if they take each other, it’s a toss up for winning the half mil. I’d bet both know this and will take one of the Ds with them.

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Big-Brother September 7, 2007 at 3:11 pm

Yes Survivor China is just around the corner…..

Its ok if you visit Jokers site….it is a nice site. I have been TRYING for 3 years to get Must-See-TV.com up to that type of site but it has been tough! I know if all of my friends here would come over to Must-See-TV and be an active part of it my site would be HUGE (sounding like Donald Trump there)

…but I digress.

I am so happy with this blog though….never thought it would be as popular and as good as it has been! Thanks to all of you guys! YOU RULE. Even EET (ya Freak)

Peace, BBBlogger

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 3:16 pm

SherreLu…that sounds like so much fun! Gonna go check it out.

BB….going to Must-See-TV. Thanks, YOU rule!!!

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 3:17 pm

No … BB Blogger … THANK YOU for giving us this forum … for the most part even with our different opinions we have stayed on topic dicussing game play with a little bit of play in between . It has been a great outlet for me and a much needed distraction from work. So I bow to the BB BLOGGER KING !!!!

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llpeterson September 7, 2007 at 3:20 pm

I hope that Jameka wins HOH and puts up D&D. I really dislike them. I was shocked at the way Dick treated Jen. I heard that she might be his daughter. I hope this is true becuz Jen would get the last laugh on this creep. For someone who really disliked Jen and couldn’t stand her then why are Dick and Danielle still talking about her?

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Jalawa September 7, 2007 at 3:25 pm

It’s so hard to care who wins at this point. Now that Eric is gone, I don’t want anyone to win. I’ve been pulling for Eric since the beginning. Even through all the trash talking that his reputation has had to endure. Bloggers and HGs alike have been calling him a sneak, and a liar. He didn’t have a choice but to be AP, but he played a damn good hand with the cards he was dealt. Can anyone honestly say that they wouldn’t have completed the AP tasks, and guarantee themselves a few thousand dollars? He deserves it, and more. He should get a free pass back into the house. Playing his own game this time. Good Game Eric!

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GOD September 7, 2007 at 3:25 pm

Americas Player???

Eric earned 10K for every 5 tasks he completed… To date he has completed 20 tasks, just enough to earn 40K… they can still use Eric as AP, but with the 5 tasks per 10K earned, there’s no cash incentive for the one task…

I wonder if BB might offer a 10K cash reward for one remaining task… When its down to the F2, the questions is “which player do you want to win BB???” Then turn Eric loose to push the votes in the direction America wants…

They could burn up some air time showing the SH as Eric works his magic, and perhaps this is why we haven’t seen the SH yet…

Just a thought…

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 3:29 pm

Jalawa, I liked Eric too.

God, that is a great idea!!!!!!!!!!!! I wish that would be the case and that would make the end of this really fun!!

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A Real Person September 7, 2007 at 3:32 pm

Worst Big Brother ever. Zero chance of it returning next year.

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GOD September 7, 2007 at 3:32 pm

and then, after Eric sways the Jury away from what they wanted to do over to AC, and it is finally revealed how Eric has manipulated tall of hem for money, we can watch the Jury pummel Eric, take his 50K and spend it on a wrap party!!!

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A Real Person September 7, 2007 at 3:34 pm

Eric+Will+Boogie would be the greatest alliance ever if they do another All Stars. Then they could get rid of the white trash pieces of shit right away (Dani and Dick)

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Jalawa September 7, 2007 at 3:37 pm

I don’t think the HGs will turn on Eric for being AP. Hopefully they will see it as it was: a ridiculous twist that could have crippled his game.

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Jalawa September 7, 2007 at 3:43 pm

I know it doesn’t seem to be the popular opinion around here, but I think Jam should win. If only to spite Satan’s son and granddaughter. I really hope Zack puts up the evil D’s this week. It wouldn’t a very smart move on his part but I want to be certain that there is no chance of that money going into the meth lab that I’m sure is in the back of Dick’s trailer.

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 3:44 pm

God, I like the way you think!

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GOD September 7, 2007 at 3:46 pm

Jalawa, I think you’re correct, But if they did turn on Eric, it would be fun to watch!!!

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Jalawa September 7, 2007 at 3:48 pm

Yeah God, I’m sure it would.

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Donna Rose September 7, 2007 at 3:49 pm

Can someone explain Survivor to me? I’ve never watched it and wonder what the interest is in a show that is already completed. Just curious what the premise is and what the contestants have to do (besides eating weird stuff). Thanks.

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Jalawa September 7, 2007 at 3:52 pm

I’m thinking about checkin out Survivor this year. Never really gave it a chance before.

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Eileen September 7, 2007 at 3:55 pm

Well this is interesting. Been following some really in depth recapping at another site. It seems that Zach had a lot of questions for the Diary Room as to how the game is played once things get to Final Four. He even made notes! So after reviewing all of this is when he made his decision to put D&D on the block. Dani informs ED on all of this but then decides to get some clarification of her own from the Diary Room. She reports back on what she determined. According to Daniele, she was told that only the HOH can use the POV to get someone off the block. The others can only use it to save themselves. This means if Dani is nominated and ED wins the POV he can only use it to save himself. I see now why Zach wants them both up. It made no sense to me before. We need to remember too that Zach would be perfectly happy with 2nd place and getting rid of one of the Donato’s will go a long way to realizing that goal. As he said to Dani, he gets nothing if he goes to Final Three with them. ED tried his intimidation tactics on Zach and was quickly told that it wasn’t going to work. Go Zach!!!!!!!

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Evel Me September 7, 2007 at 4:05 pm

I stole Jameses, but I’m glad you guys like it, I did too. 🙂 I think it was in a chat room when I was waiting for live feed one night….not sure who or I’d give credit.

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GOD September 7, 2007 at 4:07 pm

So I guess Zach finally woke up and smelled the crap he let stay in the house…

I will echo Eileen, Go Zach!!!

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barbb September 7, 2007 at 4:10 pm

I watched the Veto competition from last nights show and Dick put his necklace in his pocket not a blue ball. I paused it right when he put it in his pocket and it was for sure his necklace not a ball. I don’t really care who wins, now that Eric and Jess are gone, as long as it isn’t Dani. Now that she isn’t in control she is mopeing around and nothing is fare unless it is going her way. She needs to keep playing the game.

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GOD September 7, 2007 at 4:12 pm

Remember though, Jamika is not out of the wood yet… if one of the evils D’s wind PoV and pulls themselves off the block, then Jamika is put up… The only vote is then made by an evil D… Still, there is hope…

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 4:14 pm

I’m all for Zach…but, it still doesn’t matter. If Dani or Dick win PoV, they will probably win the final PoV. I don’t see Zach or Jameka having the balance or endurance.

But, again…anything can happen.

As for Eric and Jessica… I’d bet they will end up a couple and remember they have a 40 grand (at least) start on their future together. Plus what they have earned all Summer via their BB stipens. That will go a long way in Kansas which is where they could end up. They will also be paid for guest appearances as America’s BB sweetheart couple. Wait and see. It’ll happen.

Overall, Eric and Jessica could easily make close to the half million in a year’s time. And, Jen will make good moola simply due to her controversial personality. An agent will pick Dick up and he’ll be set for life regardless of where he ends the BB game.

And, the rest of the house (other than the winner) will be cussin’ about the real good money made by Eric, Jessica, Jen and Dick.

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GOD September 7, 2007 at 4:18 pm

Eric & Jessica the new Boston Rob & Amber???

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Evel Me September 7, 2007 at 4:21 pm

LOL God, that’s what I thought of when I read it. Please no wedding on TV, I don’t want to see them kissing ANYmore!

I’m going home, I love Fridays!

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Eileen September 7, 2007 at 4:27 pm

Yes God there is hope. 50/50 chance that it’s one of the ED’s gone this week. Given that they thought they both had Final Three in the bag that’s quite a shock to them and neither are dealing with it very well. Dick is showing the side of himself that hasn’t really been seen since Jen left. Further frustrating him no doubt is the fact that there is a limit as to how much he can get in Zach’s face because he has no access to the HOH room! I love this….I really do!

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 4:28 pm

I’m with ya’ll…go Zach!!!!!!! Zach and ED the final two paleeze!!!! Great insight Piratress!

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 4:30 pm

Darn I don’t have live feeds, have to wait until BBAD!! I would love to see D&D sweat a little!!!

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Marcie September 7, 2007 at 4:34 pm

A lot of people underestimated Zach because they didn’t think he could team up with Jameka to get rid of one of the Ds. From what I saw last night, Zach and Jameka have a better chance to win this game than the double Ds.

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arcadia September 7, 2007 at 4:34 pm

Has Zack made his nominations yet?

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me September 7, 2007 at 4:34 pm

Interesting, seems D/D are do as we say, not as we do, so typical! From BB8house, enjoy!

Well looks like some interesting convo’s took place while I was away. Dick confronted Zach about his promise of final 3. Z told him it’s every man for himself at final 4. Apparently D tried to threaten Z about the promise of final 3.. funny how he (D) forgot his own promise of final 4 with Jessica and Eric.. I guess that’s different!. Anyway, when Z/D parted company, Z went to HoH and called D a “Dick” and D outside called Z a “mother fucker”.

Dani talked to Dick and asked if he’s going to bang pots and pans at him, then she told him to “do whatever he as to do”. (She always claimed she didn’t take part in Dicks bad behavior, but live feeders know differently, she encouraged it and told him to spit in their food and other sweet things in the past. So now she’s encouraging him to get nasty, “do what ever it takes” to scare Z.

Not gonna happen, Z’s putting D/D on the block today and told Jameka last night she has to fight for that veto, and he’ll fight for the veto, because if either “D” wins it, then she is going home. It may have sounded like a threat from Z but it actually was a technical fact. If D/D are on the block, one wins veto, they take themself off. Only person left for Z to put up is Jameka, then that D who won the veto is the only person their to choose and vote someone out.

Let’s see, we missed a long convo in the yard between D/D with Dani whining to Dick about how unfair the comps have been.. gosh I sure feel bad I missed a couple hours of listening to her whine and bitch :-).

Dani talked a couple hours until morning (5am-ish) to Jameka as if they were best friends..she was all sweet to her.. I don’t think Dani’s had 1 single convo with Jameka in 2.5 months, now she’s talking as if Jameka’s her best buddy. The phoniness was oozing thru the live feed media player. I keep reading updates that repeatedly say Dani continually told Dick to go up to HoH and threaten Zach (awwww ain’t she sweet?).

Right now Z’s on 2 cams laying in HoH, and Dick’s on the other 2 feeds, laying on the sofa smoking and talking to himself.

Here’s a link to a posted update of Dani’s convo with Z in HoH earlier. She apparently was in there a long time lying and trying to work him over.. sooo glad I missed that too. I’m sure this is a very brief summary of the convo.

http://tinyurl.com/2vlmx2

Notice in that posted update where it says Dani went and told Dick of her convo with Zach, but she left things out, and only threw in things she wanted Dick to hear, trying to get Dick pissed and riled up so he’d go after Zach.

oh! oh! oh!, I just read another interesting turn of events. Apparently BB told Dani that whoever wins veto can only use it on themselves, of course if Z wins it he can change his noms. You know what that means! if Evil wins it, he cannot save Dani AGAIN from staying on the block!

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me September 7, 2007 at 4:36 pm

Looks like pots and pans and stupidity will happen again because Dicky isn’t getting his way and being handed the 500 grand for being Dicky….lol

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GOD September 7, 2007 at 4:36 pm

anyone know when the PoV comp will be held???

if it is a physical contest like the Balls, look to see D&D working closely together to insure one wins… I hope its more of a Q&A type comp… less chance of cooperating between the two… but either way, its gonna be a fight!!!

well time to play in traffic…

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arcadia September 7, 2007 at 4:58 pm

has nomination taken place yet

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 5:01 pm

PoV is live..Tuesday night. We won’t know till everyone does. Bummer.

Zach stands a REAL GOOD chance of winning it all even if up agains Jameka.. because the Jury House will give it to him for taking down D&D.

If Jameka is in F2 with D or D,…she will win. Jameka really has not ridden the coattails of anyone. I don’t like her hypocrisy with Christianity…but, she strategically gave up being able to compete in 5 HoHs and gave her all when she did compete.

Sooo, the very best D or D can do is take 2nd. Suits me fine… I’m just happy Eric made as much as he did under the circumstances.

As long as Zach keeps the present attitude, I’ll be happy for him to win.

I reckon I wouldn’t mind an Eric and Jessica wedding televised as long as it’s NOT pink.

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arcadia September 7, 2007 at 5:03 pm

i will be curious to see if dick goes on his usual tantrum if they are nominated. he can dish it out but he can’t take it. i just wish zack would just it just stadegy dude..just like turning on jess and eric

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tab September 7, 2007 at 5:07 pm

I am watching the showtime from last night. how many times is dick going to tell zack and jameka that dani is so upset that she lost hoh. D&Z are happy she didn’t win it… so, i don’t see why he keeps bringing it up. they don’t care!!!!

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Susan September 7, 2007 at 5:28 pm

Dick did cheat he put the blue ball in his pocket the in jam. spot I think he should be asked to leave the house. he’s a cheat . CBS WATCH THE TAPE YOU WILL SEE

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me September 7, 2007 at 5:36 pm

Piratress, POV comp could be its usual saturday night happening, especially if it is a messy one, with a live POV ceremony and Evict Tuesday night for the start of the triple competitions for final HOH and it will be funny if Jameka comes through and wins POV just for the pleasure of watching D&D sucking up to her to find out who she will evict!
Zack, hope you don’t mind having a room mate for the next few days, Jameka will be hiding out…..lol

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me September 7, 2007 at 5:39 pm

Hope Zack uses Dicks words to Eric after turning on the JEDD alliance last night and says to Dick “no hard feelings, it is just a strategic game move, nothing more dude!”…..lol

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Lisa September 7, 2007 at 5:50 pm

Jameka has been about as strategic as a mouse, LOL. She has made it to where she is ONLY on the decisions of others and the evictions of others – PERIOD. She hasn’t used a brain cell ONCE and has ridden her butt to the end – sitting the entire time on someone else’s strategy!!! She has WON NOTHING, she has STRATEGIZED NOTHING, all she HAS dome is KISS ASS – that’s it. The poor pathetic HGs with their frail egos and whining pity parties have been fodder for Jameka – now call that strategy, PERHAPS, but NO ONE has ever had the free ride SHE has in the show’s history. NOW, I’m tired of Daniele and Dick in many ways – BUT, they HAVE played, they HAVE won many competitions, and they HAVE been THE HGs to evict – they got there honestly – PLAYING the game – not just sitting on the street corner waiting for the next handout!!!

P.G. County mentality!!!!

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SherreLu September 7, 2007 at 6:03 pm

me too ME … I want him to say oh it’s nothing personal man its just good game play … it’s the best thing for me .

From what I read on Mortys udates …. Dick is saying you better do the right thing man or else … Jameka’s like … or else what …. oh …. I bet BBAD will be good tonight … Why in the world would he think that Zach would honor their deal … I mean the donatos are not the only ones that can go back on a deal … they are trying to say Zach can’t win against Jameka… blah …. blah…. blah … blah… you think they may want some cheese with all that winnnnnnnnnnne !!!! I’m telling you Karma …. can be a funny thing …

They also are saying POV is tomorrow can anyone else confirm this ????

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me September 7, 2007 at 6:11 pm

Lisa, they got there because AC kept them there, if it was a game without AP, D&D would have been out weeks ago or at the very least one would have been, so they got to where they are not by their doing at all but because there was a puppet in the house named Eric and Eric did his job he was given to do! And unfortunately, no one will ever know who AC’s choice really was since the numbers are never revealed thus the Producers only know the truth and how many computer geeks flooded the voting with programs to sway the AC!

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me September 7, 2007 at 6:13 pm

Wasn’t last year during the final 4 POV a car thrown in as a bait prize? Any bets if there is one again this year, Dani will grab it and leave Dick to hang and die?

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Mickey September 7, 2007 at 6:20 pm

I love how people make stuff up…. Just got home and saw how many people were saying dick put a ball in his pocket. I didn’t know anyone still “taped” things. Do they even make VCR’s anymore? I just watched my DVR of last nights episode. Dick bends over, picks up his necklace folds it in half once, then a second time, and then sticks it in his pocket. When Jameka is told she is disqualified, Eric asks (“I need it! Eric says)her for the ball she has in her hand at the time. That’s why she looks at him disgusted and says “Eric!” I’ll see if I can somehow transfer it to my computer for you guys. All the power is in the veto comp!

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me September 7, 2007 at 6:23 pm

Zack just said the POV comp is tomorrow!

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 6:35 pm

Good deal about the PoV being tomorrow. Wait. Did I miss something. Has Zach nominated D & D for sure? And, I do hope Zach uses Dick’s own words he said to Eric.

Oh.. and agree. My DVR shows Dick distinctly picking up, folding/scrunching his necklace and he jams it into his pocket. No doubt. .

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me September 7, 2007 at 6:38 pm

The nominations are at 5 BB time today and Zack said he was totally going to nominate D&D

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me September 7, 2007 at 6:44 pm

And the POV can only be used by the holder to save themself or the HOH can change one of the nominees with the POV, so unless D or D wins it, Zack and Jameka discussed it and want Dani gone and feel they can beat Dick in the final 3 especially if it is an endurance because of Dicks bum shoulder!!!

It is dilusional listening to D&D, Dick says evicting Jess and Eric was the right thing to do, but Zack has no right putting them on the block and Jameka better hold to the deal she made with Dick yesterday before first eviction and Dani says “of course she will”……is there a single sane person in that house at all?

Dani trys telling Zack he stands no chance of anything if he takes Jameka to the final 3 and he might if he takes D&D, did someone put LSD in the BB house water supply or something?

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 6:45 pm

Thanks me said! Keep us informed please. I’m stuck in the house on a Friday night due to family stuff.

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Lisa September 7, 2007 at 6:45 pm

Yeah me, that’s what I heard, too. Dick walked into the HOH room where Zach and Jameka were, and he said “well, what a duo this is”!! Zach has formed an alliance with Jameka – totally wanting to go after the Donatos – shame because Dick and Danielle were the ONLY ones who stuck with Zach in his HOH – everyone else snubbed him! BUT, then again, it’s not personal- still a shame! He doesn’t even seem to care about the 2 people in the house who HAVE watched his back!

me, I STILL say Jameka got the ride of a lifetime – FREE on the backs of the HGs – sorry it’s how I see it – nothing can make me see it any other way and I’m hoping she gets the BOOT!

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 6:53 pm

I just read your other post me said.

My opinion sure changed after the F4 deal with Eric and Jessica was broke. I’m with you…what is in the BB water that DD are drinking… laced with LSD? LOL.. cuz from the descriptions given, they’re acting like it.

D&D shoulda stuck with the Eric/Jess deal. No real reason other than it was the thing to do… it was a 50/50 with either Eric/Jess combo or Zach/Jameka.

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me September 7, 2007 at 6:58 pm

Lisa, Jameka did get a ride to some degree, but everyone had agendas they were working on and she didn’t figure into them, so what is she suppose to do, make herself into a target or keep her mouth shut since she was a lame duck anyhow because of the 5 non-competes for HOH?

And Lisa, D&D stuck to anyone like glue to save themselves and did so the entire game! Dani even said numerous times how much she couldn’t stand Zack or to be around Zack, funny how if it suits Dani’s needs, she will drool over him and then cast him aside which she did after she got the POV last week! Doesn’t that sound like someone who will do anything for money?

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 7:03 pm

Lisa,

Not trying to change your mind. You should stick to your opinion. This post is just to point out re’ Jameka making F4 – keeping in mind, she is one of the ones I did not want to see here at all.

She did not give in to prizes. She did not irritate anyone in the house (just us outside of it)..cept maybe Dick a wee bit. She gave up competing for HoH in hopes of winning that competition. She was neck n neck with Zach in the comp. till she was disqualified for the blue ball. In every comp. she did give it her all and was, at least, as good as Eric.

She didn’t lay in bed all day. She participated in household cleaning duties.

Jameka did, whether consciously or not, keep her friends close and her enemies just as close..

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Redarin D September 7, 2007 at 7:04 pm

Can zach compete for hoh next week. He’s making a mistake danielle will win pov. Jameka will go home, D&D in the final two.

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 7:07 pm

Posting same time as me said. I agree.
Jameka was almost invisible to the others except to go to her to cry to…and hear her say…mmmmmmkkkaaa. That mmmmmmmmkkka may turn out to be a smart response.

If Jameka had tried to interject herself where others were ignoring her for the most part, she definitely would have become a target.

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 7:10 pm

Redarin,

The final 3 compete against each other..then, the winner chooses who they want to go the F2 with them. So, yes, Zach competes. In fact he is the only one absolutely assured of being in the F3.

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me September 7, 2007 at 7:11 pm

Piratress, to quote Dick, “better the devil you know than the devil you don’t”! Well Dick you talk the talk, but you don’t walk the walk!

D&D made the move based on their figuring they’re invinsable to anyone in the place! Sort of sounds like Janelle the past 2 years….lol And who masterminded them breaking their alliance with J/E was Dani, her only game move in the entire season strategically!

Any bets when Dick finds out it is Dani and not him that is the target for eviction, he won’t go all out after what Dani has said to him about splitting the money if they make it to the final 2?
He knows him against anyone but Dani in the final 2 he places second anyhow, so better to walk away with 50 grand than empty pockets with blue rubber balls in them!

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StanLee September 7, 2007 at 7:12 pm

I must be missing something………….. Eric repeatedly referred to himself as a “short New York Jew” with a great degree of pride.

But, as he was leaving, he tossed out a comment about a “Philadelphia lawyer” going to the sequester house. Does this reek of typical East Coast one-upsmanship and promise that the remaining Housemates will be outplayed by his continued “persuasive” arguments while in the sequester house?

It will likely come into play only if Jameka is remaining in the final two; otherwise, the vindictive Eric will campaign against both or either of the lying and upstaging Donatos.

A successful game plan by Zach as HOH must include nomination of both Donatos to leave. The Donatos play as one, so one of them must be eliminated for either Jameka or Zack to have a realistic chance of winning. Worst case scenario in the next POV competition will be that if either Donato wins, Jameka will be nominated as a replacement and voted out by the other voting Donato. If either Zach or Jameka wins then the nominations stand and one of the Donatos will be voted out breaking that singular power clique.

Zach and the two Donatos realize that with the sequester house stacked as it is, none of these Housemates can win if they’re standing alongside Jameka in the final two so she must be eliminated before or in the last round. With one of the Donatos, Zach and Jameka in the final three, each has a 1/3 probability of winning the last competition. If either Zach or the Donato wins, that person will eliminate Jameka. If Jameka wins, then she will make the determination as to who will go with her to the final two and that person will end up in second place behind Jameka.

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me September 7, 2007 at 7:20 pm

*News Flash from one of the feeds*

Dick got a secret code from his son when he was given his basket for HOH to trust Eric and Jess, BB stopped the feed when Dick was explaining the code to Dani!

Too bad Dick and great gamesmanship!

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EllenT September 7, 2007 at 7:25 pm

I agree with Lisa. Jameka has had no game this Season. The only time she stood up for her was when she was in the LNC and THOUGHT that they had Dick’s butt in a sling. You may have noticed, Dick has not changed but Jameka doesn’t say anything now that her little back-up group is gone. Zach……well he is just crazy. He also flew under the radar as no one saw him as a threat. He has been lucky with the last 2 HOHs and the POV but he shouldn’t count Dick and Daniel out just yet. If he honestly believe he has a chance of beating Jameka in the final two….he is stupid. All of her buddies are on the jury!! I’m hoping and praying that DIck or Danielle will win the POV and get rid of Jameka and then Zach. Of the four remaining house guest…..Dick …..as rude and crude as he can be….has played the best games. He spared no feelings and was up front with his intentions through out the game. He played strategically and did what was best for Danielle…even over himself. Hopefully Danielle will see that he isn’t such a bad dad after all. I really want to see Danielle and Dick in the final two!

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Donna Rose September 7, 2007 at 7:29 pm

LISA! I love, love, love YOU! Totally agree! Jameka rode her way to the final 4, not too bad for a floater, I guess. Zach was always the dark horse, he waited in the wings while everyone else fought it out then won the challenges he needed to win.
I saw the “secret code” thing. But by the time Dick won HOH, he’d forgotten what the code was and was laughing at himself about it.

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Donna Rose September 7, 2007 at 7:31 pm

Ellen T., you said it better than I could! Go D&D!

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 7:36 pm

Zach flew under the radar for the exact same reason Jameka did. Most ignored them.

Think of it this way. Liken it to Life itself.

All during Jr High and High School, the jocks and cheerleaders are popular and everyone flocks around them. The geeks are ignored. Then, later in life as things thin out…people go their own way…get into smaller groups…still ignoring the Geeks. All this time, the Geeks have wanted to fit in and be a part of the group (just as Zach tried to do and was turned down)….then, one day, it happens….The Geeks are making the big bux in the corporations or starting their own corps.

Point is… circumstances didn’t allow them to be in the limelight and once they were given the opportunity, they came in with a bang.

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me September 7, 2007 at 7:39 pm

Since on the Jameka topic, let’s look at it in reality, after all it is reality TV….lol

When Jameka was picked for playing in the POV by Jen’s ping pong ball, Jameka made no bones about it and said she was picked to help save Jen! What came out of the POV competition but the downfall of Dustin and Jameka being used by Jen to win!

When Jameka was in the POV comp and gave up the 5 HOH’s, she was playing all out to win and she did make the right move in only willing to give up 10 grand when she had nothing on the line not being a nominee!

She knew she was a pawn and a dead player after that POV comp for 5 weeks and so she rightly so flew low, why not, only a fool would have made a target of themself unable to get revenge by winning a HOH, so did she do as she should have, any thinking person would!

Now saying this, I am not a fan at all of Jameka from day one, but give credit where credit is due!

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me September 7, 2007 at 7:45 pm

Well Donna Rose, guess it is ok to have codes set up if it is too late to use them…lol

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Eileen September 7, 2007 at 7:52 pm

Good post Piratress re Jameka. It’s how I see things as well. She really stuck by her alliance thus losing the 5 HOH’s as well as passing up the gifts. As for her performance in comp’s she did win a POV and used it to take Jen off the block. So at this point she has won as many as ED has.

Lisa you really need to stop bashing an entire county. That sort of bitterness/anger really doesn’t accomplish anything and it’s getting really old.

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Brian September 7, 2007 at 7:54 pm

Lisa? Should Zach just roll over and play dead? He has no shot at making the final 2 with both D7D in the house. He has to put them up and Jameka or Zach must win POV to get rid of Dani. It’s his only move.

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 7:57 pm

Okay, just reading a few posts, but did Zach do nom’s and did he nominate D&D. If he did, it doesn’t matter, he has to do what he thinks is his best bet and he still only has a 50/50 shot no matter what. I agree with all of you on Jamesus and I think that she also has done her part in the house and in the competitions. For some reason, I just don’t want her to win, but the one I really don’t want in the final two is Danielle. Sorry to all Dani fans. As Whamber says, “I just can’t with her”!!!

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 8:00 pm

Sorry, but what is P.G. County?

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me September 7, 2007 at 8:00 pm

Was reading on Joker site that Dick said even when he won HOH the first time, and got the letter from Vince it was coded, and after all his explaining to Dani about it his simple answer about it is “hey man if johnny fairplay can pull some s** then so can I.”

So stupid exposing this, then he was called to the DR room, so could Dick be gone and screwed himself in the game or in some other way?

Will be interesting when the feeds come back on to see if Dick is still there or not!

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 8:03 pm

So am I understanding this right? Dick is out and out saying that he got coded letters from his son and is telling everyone and BB didn’t know about it beforehand?? I thought they read the letters to make sure there was nothing there. Of course if they were coded, they wouldn’t know I guess. I can’t believe Dick would come out and say such a thing now. Is this what is going on or am I reading this wrong?

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me September 7, 2007 at 8:05 pm

Here Vivian go see for yourself!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6jWw51Icvg

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EllenT September 7, 2007 at 8:13 pm

Pirateress……I personally believe that Jameka gave up the 5 HOHs competitions because at that time in the game…..her alliance, the LNC….was in charge of the house. She didn’t feel like she was going to be in harms way as she “thought” that her alliance would be the strong hold in the house and she was safe within it. She took a chance and when the LNC fell apart…she lost her position and her sense of safety so she had no choice but to lay low. She had to back off and eat crow as she had been knocked off her high horse. I don’t believe it was a strategic move, it is just how the ball bounced. We would have seen a very different Jameka, much like the one that was so confrontational with Dick, had the LNC stuck together.

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AFather September 7, 2007 at 8:14 pm

They all play for POV.

Jameka and Zack have to win POV or Jameka goes home.

Then is it two against Zack for the final two.

It all comes down to this POV. If D&D ever needed a win, it is now.

If D or D is in the final two with Zack or Jameka the only way Z or J wins is if the Jury votes against D or D because they dont like them. It wont be for game play. Zack and Jameka did nothing to win this game, unless you call doing nothing, doing something.

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Sarbahz September 7, 2007 at 8:17 pm

Well, it’s been one hell of a week.

A sad one for me. I loved Eric and Jessica, they were my favorites, and now they’re gone. Has Richard Donato played the game very successfully? Oh, yes. Absolutely.

But it’s ugly. Vulgar, but not in the traditional sense. To me, it was like solving a Chinese puzzle box by using a sledgehammer. Yeah, it’s opened, but damn.

And I really can’t stand his vacuous daughter. It boggles my mind how someone so uneducated and simple can excel at the competitions. And the way she openly disrespects everyone, even her own father, unless she wants something from them.

I don’t want them to win. I don’t think they deserve it.

As long as the both of them aren’t in the Final Two together, though, it won’t be an issue. The jury house is filled They’d hand five hundred thousand dollars to Rosemary’s Baby before they gave it to a Donato. So we’ll see what happens.

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Sarbahz September 7, 2007 at 8:18 pm

Whoops. I meant to say, “Filled with people who hate them.”

My laptop is possessed.

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me September 7, 2007 at 8:19 pm

Well nominations are done, it is D&D officially on the block! which doesn’t matter, only Zack gets the free pass by winning HOH into the final 3! POV is a free for all!

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 8:21 pm

Yes, ED DID say he and his son had worked out a secret code for the letter ED would get if he won HoH. But he was laughing about it with Dani because he said by the time he was HoH, he had totally forgot what the code was and couldn’t see any secret messages anyway. It WAS pretty funny.

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AFather September 7, 2007 at 8:25 pm

Yes, everyone hates the Danotos but they all love BB. They watch and respect the show for the last 7 years. They know what constitutes great game play. They also realize that most HGs dislike each other, especially those that voted them out. But above all they respect the game and those that excell in it. If i am correct Zack and Jameka dont stand a chance of winning against either Danoto.

Win or Lose, one thing is for sure. Zack or Jameka will never be on BB All stars. But D&D, Amber, Jenn and Eric could. The others dont stand a chance either.

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 8:25 pm

Thanks Me. This could be something bad for Dick but then again, he could get out of because he said he didn’t see any coded message in the letter and he forgot how to do it. With Dick’s luck, it will be no problem!

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me September 7, 2007 at 8:26 pm

EET, this is the second letter from vince and second HOH for Dick, so laugh at this one, but pretty stupid to even mention it and run the risk of something when things are down to the wire!

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 8:28 pm

Me, I agree. Why did he even open his mouth about it?

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Donna Rose September 7, 2007 at 8:29 pm

Afather, great observation! But I don’t hate the Donatos, I really want to see them in the final 2 to be honest, and I have since week one. =^^=

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me September 7, 2007 at 8:30 pm

AFather, if Zack keeps pulling rabbits out of his back side and wins, he could be on the next all-stars easily, but his game play if he waddled through and then after everyone has killed themselves off and he starts playing like he has, won’t happen again in all-stars! But next all-stars is what 7 years from now, so who knows then, some in the last one never expected to be there and who knows if BB will last another 7 yrs anyhow!

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Brian September 7, 2007 at 8:31 pm

The final POV will be a combination of all the previous POV’s this BB8 season. It will be long and will be aired live on Tuesdays show.

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Donna Rose September 7, 2007 at 8:32 pm

Dick didn’t get anything for his second HOH – no letter, no booze, no candy, he was only HOH for less than an hour before they did the next competition where Zach won.

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me September 7, 2007 at 8:34 pm

Donna Rose, they gave Dick his HOH basket of goodies and letter tonight in the DR room for winning HOH last night and being HOH for 10 minutes!

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me September 7, 2007 at 8:35 pm

Vivian, Dick obviously thinks he can do anything and get away with it, and BB lets him!

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 8:36 pm

I stand on this. I do not want Jameka in the F2. I don’t like the way she used religion. But, I don’t think she has gotten a totally free ride either.

I do think Zach deserves to there more so than Jameka and I won’t be upset if he wins it all. As I said, he came through in the clutch. He is like that Geek I spoke of. He tried to get into alliances, tried to fit in and noone wanted him.

My preference would be Zach and ED in the F2. Not a DD duo. So, for that to happen, one of the Ds has to win PoV and Jameka gets evicted. Then, Zach has to win the final HoH and choose ED to go with him.

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 8:37 pm

You are right Me, they do let him get away with everything. I guess they know which side their bread is buttered!

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Brian September 7, 2007 at 8:38 pm

BB is fixing the POV contest so that Jameka will win and Dani goes home. Yes. Jameka was already told the answers to the Q&A session in the Final POV competition. The entire show has been fixed from the start and Jemeka and Zach will be in the final 2.

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 8:38 pm

Pitratress, I absolutely agree with you on all of it, except I really want Dani gone this time with no chance in the F2.

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Donna Rose September 7, 2007 at 8:40 pm

Thank you “me” I’m glad to know that!

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Brian September 7, 2007 at 8:42 pm

and congrats to GOD. He has just been chosen as the new voice behind the scenes in Big Brother 9.

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 8:43 pm

Vivian,…Yep. You’re probably right. I, also, don’t want her to have even the slightest chance of making it to F2. I’m torn about it though cuz I don’t want Jameka there either. Sheeet. Wish it was Zach, Eric, Jessica and Dick left.

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Vivian September 7, 2007 at 8:45 pm

Me too Piratress…..nail biting!!!

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me September 7, 2007 at 8:46 pm

What is funny is each year they try out doing the previous year that players got away with doing, so what will next year be, when assault, cheating and vulgarity is ramped this year?

CBS’s logo now standing for Criminal Behavior Succeeds?

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me September 7, 2007 at 8:47 pm

Not a problem Donna Rose, you’re most welcome!

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AFather September 7, 2007 at 8:50 pm

Well it will all be up to the next two competitions. If D&D continue to play like they have they will be in the final two, if they lose then they lose.

You know whats funny, if Jameka wins a comp and gets to the final two, it will be the only thing she won in the game. I guess it was the only thing she had to win.

One thing I would be willing to bet; regardless of who wins this season, there are only a cople of names each year people remember and I am willing to BET a years salary that Zack and Jameka are not names people remember.

They will henceforth be known as the “black church girl” and the “big doofus”

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Brian September 7, 2007 at 8:52 pm

OMG!!! Dick just slapped Daniele in the face and Dick was called into the DR. Did you all see that!!!

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Kristin September 7, 2007 at 8:55 pm

bs

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AFather September 7, 2007 at 9:08 pm

Brian, you are funny but your timing is off. The only dick slapping is Erics face by his boy friend in Greenwich Villiage.

Lets all sing for Eric….”YYY, MCA, it’s fun to stay at the YMCA”

BB, “AFather please stop singing”

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 9:10 pm

AFather,, ROFLMAO!!!!

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 9:11 pm

Kirsten, don’t encourage Brian….

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Donna Rose September 7, 2007 at 9:13 pm

Ah, yes, Greenwich Village, it definitely takes one; right, but now they’re missing their idiot. =^^=

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me September 7, 2007 at 9:16 pm

I do hope after this game is done, the winner throws 5 grand to Dani to have her nasal voice fixed and Hooters patrons in the Greater LA area, watch out if Dani serves you, she hates you and only wants your money…..lol

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Donna Rose September 7, 2007 at 9:19 pm

LOL…NO TIPS FOR YOU! and Jessica’s wasn’t fingernails on a chalkboard? Someone needs to teach her the word is AND, not eeeeeeeeeeeeeAND. Beyond irritating.

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me September 7, 2007 at 9:22 pm

Donna Rose, isn’t that a midwestern thing?…lol

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 9:24 pm

EET, .. please report to diary room for ROTFLYAO
AFather…please join EET for being the reason EET LHAO
Brian…please report to one of the producers for coming up with the thought of what we would all like to actually do to Dani.
Kirsten…please turn your mic up
Vivian…you are automatically in the F2 for agreeing with me
Donna Rose…you get a slop pass for being polite to me said
me said…you win 10 million for ….well….just for being…..you…

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 9:29 pm

Duh!!!!! to Myself!!!

I win the true Dummie award.

It just dawned on me that me said is simply me… because the word said is after all our handles/names.

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me September 7, 2007 at 9:31 pm

Aw thanks Piratress, but 10 million what?..lol

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 9:32 pm

O….K….. how many of you had already figured out the mistake I’ve been making by referring to me as me said and have been sitting there,…keeping your mouths shut and allowing me to make a complete ass out of myself?????

Thanks BB Blogger Buddies!

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me September 7, 2007 at 9:36 pm

Piratress, so long as you dson’t call me Dick, Dani, Zack or Jameka I am ok with your calling me anyhting else…..lol

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me September 7, 2007 at 9:47 pm

Got a question, valid or not, just something to wonder about!

LAst night in the ball competition, when jameka was disqualified due to the blue ball in her tube, and it did have an impact on the game actions and the outcome since she and Zack were neck and neck, shouldn’t BB do one of the following?

A- Verify what happened to the viewers and if another player did it, disqualify the player who did it and have a redo of the POV?

B- Simply do a redo of the POV if it bounced in on its own?

After all, if you think about it, it did ultimately cost a competitor a chance at 500 grand, be it Eric or anyone else, they did redos in previous seasons when something was wrong and BB did cause the game to change with their disqualification announcement!

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Marie17 September 7, 2007 at 9:54 pm

DID ZACH WIN HOH??? b/c thats what the banner says. i hope Daniele wins if that’s not true!!

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 9:59 pm

me,

I agree…come to think of it… should be a redo if Jameka didn’t put it in there and there are enough camera angles for BB to determine if she did or didn’t. BB has redone comps when it is out of the HGs control of a mistake.

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Redarin D September 7, 2007 at 10:05 pm

Well there are only 2 all stars from this season. Dick and………………..Joe both of them made the house interesting they are the only two people worth bringing back.

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Redarin D September 7, 2007 at 10:06 pm

Why wasn’t erics identity revealed to the HG’s

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Brian September 7, 2007 at 10:12 pm

Dick just built a mountain out of all his thick spit.

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Brian September 7, 2007 at 10:14 pm

Eric’s identity will be revealed on the finale…when he proposes to Dustin…um…I mean Jess.

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Lisa September 7, 2007 at 10:15 pm

Don’t know if this was on – haven’t checked out the blog for a while –

Zach nominated Dick and Danielle for eviction

As usual – POV tomorrow

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me September 7, 2007 at 10:19 pm

Something Zack told Jameka this morning at 3AM BB time when talking in the HOh!

Zach: Wait until the wrap party…I’m not who you think I am…there is more, there is more…I’ve had to lay low specifically for a reason.

Any ideas what it could be who he really is?

on another thread somebody posted “Zach on Style Court”. I watched it and it was Zach in style court with a friend, Zach said he was a promoter or he owned a club. On BB8 he said he was a graphic designer.

So who is Zack really?

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 10:20 pm

Donna Rose, with Eric in the SH, there’s a LOT of villages without an idiot.

me (should we call you me said?)…as far as redoing the POV, I don’t know, god put the ball there (thou he has vehemently denied it here on this blog), and what the hell. Jameka was disqualified but is still in the house. Shiite happens.

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Donna Rose September 7, 2007 at 10:28 pm

HEY BRIAN…is Richard Dreyfuss on his way??? I mean, are you sure it’s spit and not whipped potatoes. (Look out for skinny, green men)

The eeeeeeeeeeeeeand thing comes from the Valley Girl in California. Jessica is a transplant from CA to Kansas, but I’m a native CA and sound like I’m from the midwest, go figure…

And finally, does anyone really care who Zach really is? I just know he sticks his tongue out when he pulls out his eyebrows. Is there much more to this dark horse we all love as Zach? =^^=

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Brian September 7, 2007 at 10:29 pm

Zach is really Eric in disquise.

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Lisa September 7, 2007 at 10:30 pm

Zach is having visions of gradeur! He said he’s the MUSCLE in the game – that he’s REALLY playing NOW – watch out – and he’s badmouthing Dick and Danielle all over the place – EVEN THOUGH they had a DEAL to go to the final 3 together – Zazh somehow thinks Jameka will get him there. Zach told Jameka that if he is in a position to where he’s not going to win he will help her to take one of them (Dick or Danielle) out…

The final power is in POV – MAJOR

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Donna Rose September 7, 2007 at 10:30 pm

Oh, my White Zin made me almost forget….PIRATRESS…no one told you about the me said thing because we all thought it was part of your witty, adorable charm. =^^=

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 10:37 pm

Piratress, Donna Rose doesn’t speak for ME (no, not me said, but ME, EET). I didn’t say anything because I figured as long as everybody was laughing at you, they weren’t laughing at me.

Donna Rose, whipped potatoes?

DO DO DO DO DOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Brian September 7, 2007 at 10:39 pm

Hey Piratress, keep doing the “Me Said” thing, but when you address someone else, leave out the “Said” and replace it with “Beotch”.

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Donna Rose September 7, 2007 at 10:41 pm

Brian Beotch, you freakin’ crack me up! =^^=

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Brian September 7, 2007 at 10:43 pm

LOL

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 10:44 pm

Thank you Donna Rose! Even if you might be humoring me… just don’t let me know that part.
Capt. Jack rescued me from the land of the undead and once out is when I realized the ‘me said’ deal.

Yo me,
You get 10 million kisses from Donna Rose or Vivian. or Both. 😉

PoV Rules!!!!!!!!

I’m not kidding…but, all along Zach has looked familar. I was thinking either another reality show or a walk on on some soap opera…buttttt…. I don’t watch soaps anymore…haven’t for years…sooooo,
If he owns a club, it coulda been when I was jet setting. Those times are kinda blurry.

Every single BB..and even Survivor… at the end …. Ego gets in the driver’s seat and when that person who lets Ego drives…if they weren’t considered an idiot…they open mouth and remove all doubt.

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me September 7, 2007 at 10:45 pm

Should Dick get a penalty vote for opening his big mouth about the codes in his HOH letters?

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Donna Rose September 7, 2007 at 10:48 pm

You ARE a pirate! I KNEW IT!!!!! Piratress, your Abe Lincoln quote is not just fitting but appropriate. And I don’t believe in humoring anyone, I thoroughly enjoy your intelligent posts! You rock! =^^=

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Piratress September 7, 2007 at 10:50 pm

Wow!… I sure do miss a lot when I’m typing a post.

Okeydokey… Beotch it tis!

Now, that the ‘me said’ is out in the open and a done deal….Everyone can go back to laughing at EET Beotch.

I don’t think I’ll sleep a winky wink tonight thinking of the PoV tomorrow. Anyone for a slumber party??

I’m watching ‘Intervention’ on TV. It’s a really good deterent for not doing drugs.

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Evils Evil Twin September 7, 2007 at 11:00 pm

Donna Rose, Abe Lincoln? Why does that name sound familiar? Was he on BB2? And if you’re so impressed with pirates I’ll send you an eyepatch.

Piratress, a SLUMBER PARTY?!?!? I’ll bring the popcorn and the BB5 DVD Boxset.

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me September 7, 2007 at 11:27 pm

Maybe it is about time D&D came to realize they really don’t need to win BB8, after the show is over, they will make a fortune doing the circuit of shows like Jerry Springer, Montel, Morrie, Sesame Street, Dr. Phil, Judge Judy and Howard Stern, not to mention the money they will rake in endorsing things like Prozac, Good Will and Salvation Army clothing outlets and wife-beater shirts along with endorsing cheap hair coloring by Revlon and lets not forget a show on the cooking network, Chef Dick – making chili and the special seasoning is (Dick in the background horking up a doozy one) and spits in the pot!
So maybe someone should slip them a coded note to take a chill pill for the next few days!

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Vivian September 8, 2007 at 12:04 am

Well, I was off watching the so very exciting BBAD and had to just tear myself away to see what was up here. I find out that we are still making fun of EET and Donna Rose and I have been pimped out by Piratress to Me!!!! I am all in for a slumber party, but that just sounds bad doesn’t it!!! I do have to say, I was quite impressed with the way Dani was able to change bra’s in front of the camera without showing a thing and that just takes talent. I have been doing that for hundreds of years and that is a trick I just can’t do!!!!

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Lauren September 8, 2007 at 12:15 am

i have a mad crush on dick.

but i want zach to win.

but i love that eric and jess love each other.

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Lisa September 8, 2007 at 12:18 am

http://www.bb8spoiler.com/

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Vivian September 8, 2007 at 12:19 am

Lauren, I just don’t think I could ever get passed the spitting he constantly does to even look at him closely, but I want him to win over his daughter, that is for sure!

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Ronjj September 8, 2007 at 12:39 am

How much is CBS going to let Dick get away with? I did see him put something in his pocket during the competition, but do not know what it was. Now, he gets a supposed coded letter from his son. I thought outside influences were not permitted. He verbally abused and physically abused Jen several times. What else is the network going to let him get away with?

He and his miserable daughter have got to go.

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Piratress September 8, 2007 at 12:52 am

Donna Rose,… You’re so sweet. Thanks.
Vivian…See what happens when ya are away from the blog too long. Ya get pimped out.
me…Your visuals via your words..are…well…. quite unique.
EET…I’m still waiting on my popcorn.
Lauren..I must confess I have a crush on Dick’s multicolored head hair.
Lisa…I’ve checked that link from time to time also. Man,..those blog folks are tame compared to us.
And…last, but, not least…Ronjj… are you a Jen incognito?

Sidebar for Ronjj: It was his necklace he pocketed. DVR showed it clearly. Take a few minutes and scan the blog thread right here…

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beta September 8, 2007 at 12:57 am

Well I just got through catching up on the Live Feed Reports, Spoilers, and BBAD… I have to say, this has taken a pretty interesting turn, I can’t believe Zach is HOH again. Jameka had better pray pray pray that she gets POV if she wants to make it to the final 3. Wow, what a season…

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Ryan P. September 8, 2007 at 7:04 pm

OH YEAH Dani has won POV!!! in yer face mofo ZACH! this is awesome jameka has no chance in hell or heaven…..

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Joey Bag of Doughnuts September 9, 2007 at 11:31 pm

The Donatos are trash. Dick screams about fairness and lied to everyone, which is ok if he didn’t go around back stabbing everyone. He dumped his drink a Jen then kissed her but later and told her how much they needed her when she won HOH. Danielle and Dick have been an alliance from day one. They both had an unfair advantage over the other house guests. NEITHER WOULD BE THERE WITHOUT THE OTHER. Danielle voted for Nick to leave then blamed everyone else. I hope she grows up someday can except responsibility for her own actions. Dick is the right name for this monkey butt. It’s odvious that he hates himself. If I was in that house I would of wipe the tattoos off his butt a long time ago. He wants to look like a devil. He likes to be called evil. Her bad mouths someone’s religion. He is pure white trash. His total domineer is pure trash. How could you not cheer for Jamika or Zach? They both have played ALONE. They both have tried to play an honorable game. I hope the Donato crawl back under the rock they came out from under. There 15 minutes are up.

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Ronjj September 10, 2007 at 8:46 pm

Joey Bag of Doughnuts, I totally agree with you, but we are in the monority on this blog. All here lover the Donatos.

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Joey Bag of Doughnuts September 12, 2007 at 12:27 am

PURE WHITE TRASH! Donato’s are the arm pit of american pop culture. I hope they both riot in hell!

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