Big Brother 17: Good News and Bad News

by Lisa Marie Bowman on August 15, 2015

Hi, everyone!

Well, the veto ceremony is going to be held later today.  Apparently, it’s going to be the famous OTEV veto.  The Big Brother house voice told the HGs to be sure to rest and drink lots of water before the competition because apparently, it’s hot in California right now.

But anyway, here’s what’s been happening in the house.  As seems to be the pattern for this season, it’s a combination of bad news and good news.

Here’s the bad news.  Liz is HoH.  While the Hate Twins have been busy talking about how hot they are and laughing at Austin behind his back, Vanessa has been scurrying like a wool-hatted mouse and trying to get our beloved Johnny Mac nominated.

To his credit, John has finally woken up.  He figured out that — regardless of what the Hate Twins told him — he was the target this week.  He also figured out that Vanessa has been telling everyone that he can’t be trusted.  So, before the nominations, John was having a conversation with Vanessa.  John told her that he felt bullied by her when she went after him over his supposed relationship with Clay.  As usual, Vanessa freaked out and started talking a mile a minute.  John told her that he doesn’t like it when she cries and yells at people.  Vanessa yelled back that she never yells at people.

John is a better observer than people give him credit for.  He knows that Vanessa always yells at the people who are about to be evicted.  As such, when Liz nominated him and Becky for eviction, he knew that he was the target.

Here’s the good news.  John may no longer be the target.

Even after John was nominated, Vanessa could not stop freaking out.  She run up to the HoH room and lied to Austin and the twins, telling them that John had declared that he was going to come after them.  She then went on to say that John was screaming at her, that his face turned red, that’s he’s bi-polar, and that he’s dangerous because he listens to rap music and death metal.

As usual, Vanessa went too far.  Austin and the twins realized that she was lying about John.  Meg later talked to Austin, telling him all of the lies that Vanessa has been telling in the house.  And finally, John went up stairs and talked to Austin and the Hate Twins.  He told them everything that Vanessa has been doing.  John spent a lot of time talking to them and, while talk in the Big Brother House is cheap, it appears that John may have saved himself.

After John left, the Hate Twins agreed that they now trusted John and that, once again, they did not trust Vanessa.  Unfortunately, the Hate Twins also decided that they couldn’t backdoor Vanessa because it’s good to have a big target around the house.  

So, as of now, it appears that the new target is Becky.

(The Hate Twins also feel that they can use their “hotness” to control John, whereas they can’t do that with Becky.  Yes, they actually said that.)

So, unless Becky wins the veto, it looks like she might be heading to the jury house on Thursday.

Lisa Marie

Starfish August 15, 2015 at 1:50 pm

Thanks Lisa, you’re the best!!

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herbie August 15, 2015 at 1:54 pm

Is there a such thing as an androgynous voice? If so the Hate Twins have one. Vanessa on other hand personifies androgynous and apparently can’t make up her mind which sex she prefers as I know she was once engaged to great guy named Chad Brown who passed away about a year or so ago after losing his battle to cancer. Apparently, after Chad’s death Vanessa switched sexual preference teams. Google Chad Brown poker player and you can learn more about him…he was heck of baseball player too.

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Susan August 15, 2015 at 1:59 pm

Blech!!!! What cowards to not Backdoor Vanessa!! So glad John started talking. He said that was the longest he’d ever been in the HOH room. Thanks, Lisa. I’m can’t wait to see who wins POV. I read if John won they’d have to put up Meg or James but Becky would still be the target. What if Becky wins? Would hate to see any of them – John, Meg or James go.

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bobovnvet August 15, 2015 at 2:20 pm

Thanks for this write up Lisa♥ …………………………. :mrgreen:

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wingnut17 August 15, 2015 at 2:23 pm

They should of voted Vanessa out when they had the chance. The hate twins are not hot at all. I still think Shelli was pretty on the inside and outside. Jackie was full of herself, Meg is a fruit loop dingas and Becky is just basic. The boys are nothing to look at after Clay left. Johnny Mack you go and turn it up. I hope you win. Was BBAD on last night? Friday night or did I miss it?
Later and still looking for a job. Nice and toasty in Wisconsin.

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Ginny August 15, 2015 at 2:24 pm

I would not be sorry to see Becky go. Alot of mean people this year! The twins.. Becky..the way she spoke to Vanessa… Vanessa the way she screams at people.James for always scaring Steve behind closed doors…Meg..for hitting on Clay for hitting on Meg…and on and on…But…Vanessa is a poker player! I can’t see her playing the game any other way! I don’t care about her sexual preference.. Or who she was married to.. I would like to see her win..except she has lots of money and I would love to see someone win who really needs it! Just sayn

Hey..thanks Lisa for all your great updates! You make this blog what it is. I appreciate your hard work. I hope everyone here supports the blog by getting the feeds here.! 6 dollars a month is nothing!
It’s the least we can do. Again..just sayn

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Margie August 15, 2015 at 2:37 pm

I’m so happy to see that other folks feel the same way about the twins as I do! They have a very exalted opinion of their “hotness”. The two of them talking, eating and drinking wine in the HOH yesterday was very informative. They obviously have never watched the feeds before. At one point, after the two of them pretty much blasting everyone in the game, they began to have second thoughts about saying all if the crap they were spewing and then said they didn’t have to worry because the feeds weren’t on then. lol. I am not a fan of Austin or Vanessa but if it wasn’t for the two of them plus Clay and Shelly they would not be there now!

I just can’t watch Austin and Liz in the HOH. It’s disgusting. He even follows her to the bathroom! That would drive me crazy. Wonder how he is going to feel when he gets out and finds out just how Liz feels about him. As she says “he is her little bitch right now”. But they both would cut him in a heartbeat. I think of them as the mean girls times two.

I love Johnnie Mac because of his weirdness and honesty. I also love the way he sees right thru Vanessa! Thank goodness people are catching on to her and did not believe all the ridiculous crap she was saying about him. I hope he wins the veto today and keeps himself safe. They should put Vanessa up as a replacement and let her implode the rest of the week!

I don’t understand why everyone loves James and Meg so much. As much as Becky helped them out last week they have absolutely no loyalty to her or anyone else except each other. James never forgets a slight toward him and holds a grudge while expecting others to just let things go. James, Meg and Jackie were all so gleeful and full of themselves and moping around this week.

This season has not been my favorite BB season by a long shot. In fact, I find it pretty boring compared to other seasons. The only person I really care about is Johnnie Mac. Usually at this time of the year I am very much invested and can’t stop watching the feeds. Not so much this year!

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Jeanne4488 August 15, 2015 at 2:37 pm

I won’t have anyone to root for if Johnny Mac gets sent packing! He’s my favorite. I don’t miss Jackie only because she was a bit too egotistical but she was a smarter player than mot who are left. But I’d have much rather seen Vanessa or Austin go. Austin is just a creep and I don’t understand how Liz can stand him pawing her all the time. UGH. And then she said in the diary room that it’s started to turn into something more than just friends. EWWWW! but then I don’t know why she’d be making fun of him with Julia. (who we all know can’t stand him)
I guess if Johnny Mac goes I’d be then rooting for James since he’s not afraid to make a move and at least plays the game! but he’s running out of allies unfortunately.

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bobovnvet August 15, 2015 at 2:39 pm

Just saving a spot!……………….. :mrgreen:

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Ginny August 15, 2015 at 2:50 pm

Why!!! Why….does everyone like Johnny Mac…Because he is funny????

Why..

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SharonB August 15, 2015 at 3:33 pm

Yes, BBAD was on t.v., last night, in California but it was boring. No game talk that I saw just normal chit chat and eating! Yes, it’s hot here!! The current temperature in Burbank at 1:30 PM is 100 degrees! That’s hot!!

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jolee August 15, 2015 at 4:11 pm

Another great report Lisa. I really have nothing to add ……
Except …. please, please, get Vanessa out of the house! Then. Austin.
I agree with Jeanne4488. The only person in that house I would vote for is Johnny Mc. The rest of the house are, in my opinion, losers!! I wouldn’t have anyone else to root for! Very sad season. But ….. I just can’t stay away! I’m no deserter! 😉
Later! 😎

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Jeanne August 15, 2015 at 5:23 pm

Put my blog on wrong page.
WOW WOW WOW. Come on player’s go back to square one and play the game as it was intended to be played. So frustrated.

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Princess August 15, 2015 at 5:24 pm

When I saw that little Diary Room ad for “it’s becoming a real thing” that Liz did recently, my only thought was that production was trying to make the twin(s) look good. Or perhaps better than the nasty, spiteful, manipulative little bitches that they appear to be when not being edited for television.

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sherry August 15, 2015 at 5:46 pm

wingnut17: I think you might have had the same problem I had last night with BBAD. I
usually let it run for awhile before tuning in, becasue I like to FF through the commercials.
But it hadn’t recorded BBAD. The listing said “Outbreak” was on. I tuned in just to
see what kind of movie had taken the place of BBAD. But there was no movie, it was a
miscommunication on the t.v. guide (Dish). I missed quite a bit of last night, but after
tuning in, I decided I really couldn’t have picked a better night to miss. It was so boring!
Tonight, I will be checking ahead of time to make sure the listing is correct.

I truly hope JM can save himself with the veto. But then the comps haven’t been going
my way lately.

Vanessa is gettting more and more out of control. I’m glad everyone is finally getting clued in on the fact that her honesty and trustworthiness is all in her head and not in her actions. But to keep her for a target is a mistake. Even with all the wealth of information they’ve been given, they just don’t understand the threat she represents. She will win the entire thing with this kind of emptiness between the ears running the game.

I, too, feel queasy watching Austin follow Liz everywhere. His wrestling career may never
get any better with the poor image he’s presented to television land audiences. I think he
chose the wrong profession in the beginning. He just isn’t wrestling mania material. Of
course I’m not a true judge of this, as I am not a big wrestling fan.

Thanks, Lisa for another good synopsis on the house.

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swt August 15, 2015 at 5:55 pm

well, i like johnny mac ~ he seems like he’s having a good time and he’s not vindictive. vanessa is rich enough why she’s on BB17 i don’t have a clue. not my favorite BB season either In fact, I find it boring. hope it get’s better. the cat claws need to go in a bit. just saying imo ~

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suzie August 15, 2015 at 6:00 pm

any idea when the pov will be played and who is playing

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tendr August 15, 2015 at 6:05 pm

Still liking Becky and JM. They’re so funny together talking, playing games ,though most of that I had to find on you tube.

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Robert August 15, 2015 at 6:19 pm

I’m thinking Julia has a chance to be in final 3 just like victoria of last season. No threat.and might not get jury vote.

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macy August 15, 2015 at 6:52 pm

Thx LM

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C'est Moi August 15, 2015 at 7:25 pm

@sherry C’est Moi: Impressive, girl!

I know, I know. Bruce is now Caitlyn and it can happen. But I’ve enjoyed being a guy for 72 years with no regrets. What a year, 1943! Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison and C’est Moi et al.

I subscribed for the first time this season to the CBS live feeds and discovered that it is actually possible to get too much of a bad thing. I always keep my mouse primed and ready to pounce in the mute button whenever the twins let out their Brenda Vaccaro meets Tarzan on steroids yelps, Meg becomes a giggleomaniac for now apparent reason, Venessa says anything, or Steve rambles on and on with what appears to be his real intent to say nothing to anybody but his mom.

I hope Becky wins POV, removes herself from the block, and puts Liz in a position even less desirable than coexisting with Austin 24/7 as she has to decide who goes up next to JM, the pawn she and Austin want to save for another day along with Vanessa they are protecting for too many lame reasons to mention.

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sherry August 15, 2015 at 7:55 pm

C’estMoi I am so very sorry. I don’t speak French. Took five years of Spanish and was
signed up for two more when we moved to Arkansas. Only Spanish 1 and 2 were offered.
Since so many on this blog are females, I just made an assumption that was dead wrong.
Please accept my apologies. Impressive, guy!! (Better?)

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jolee August 15, 2015 at 8:02 pm

I agree!!! C’est Moi! and Sherry! Sorry Tendr, I liked Becky at first, but after watching YouTube’s reruns of BBAD, I changed my mind. She can be downright mean and rude!! There is little to like about BB this season! I’ll stick with Johnny boy until he proves unworthy of my affection! 😉
Later! 😎

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C'est Moi August 15, 2015 at 8:46 pm

@sherry

Guy works, with or without the impressive accolade. Actually, other than English, I am only fluent in German, having lived in Austria and Germany for several years after my first two year of college. I was 19, though born and raised in Washington, DC, my fraternal and maternal families all have Utah roots dating back to 1847 so what I was doing while in Europe was not an extended vacation, even though my Mission President would say otherwise.

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Rhonda August 15, 2015 at 8:55 pm

The twins are far from hot and have the most annoying loud voices ever! Vanessa fast talks everyone and never stops plotting. Please wake up houseguests and vote her out. I would love to see John or James win. The best show will be when Austin, the twins and Vanessa get knocked down a notch. They talk trash about everyone and it just makes them look trashy!!

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Jeanne August 15, 2015 at 8:57 pm

I think Becky is a mean girl. I am for Johnny Mc all the way. Austin makes me queezy.

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sherry August 15, 2015 at 8:58 pm

@C’est Moi: What does your blog name mean? You have a colorful history that I know
is chocked full of great stories. I’ll bet your best education didn’t come from a classroom, but from life experiences. Sometime I would like to hear some of your European stories.
As good as you are at painting pictures with words, I know I’ll get a good feel for places and
experiences. Thanks.
Have you heard anything about who won the veto comp?

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sherry August 15, 2015 at 9:03 pm

Ever since Liz first opened her mouth and spoke, I knew there was something annoyingly
familiar about it. Today while working around the house, I heard a voice that sounded
just like Liz and Julia. I knew it wasn’t time for BB, so I turned around to look. It was the
star from “The Nanny”. It clicked in place!!!

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C'est Moi August 15, 2015 at 9:16 pm

Veto comp is still going on…

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sherry August 15, 2015 at 9:19 pm

Thanks.

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C'est Moi August 15, 2015 at 9:19 pm

@sherry

C’est Moi translates to “it is me.”

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Star August 15, 2015 at 9:52 pm

I think liz is winner. She said she was keeping noms the same.

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Star August 15, 2015 at 9:54 pm

Austin says to Liz, you have turned into a little Janelle. Also just got confirmation. LIZ is the POV winer!!!!!!!!!

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Star August 15, 2015 at 10:01 pm

It was OTEV. Liz beat Austin. He came in 2nd. They all have splatter all over their faces,like they just commited murder!!lol Can’t wait to see it. Hope it’s on Sunday!

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jolee August 15, 2015 at 10:10 pm

C’est Moi, I agree with Sherry! I also thought you were a girl .. sorry! I have always loved your name. Now I know what it means! 🙂 It is you! 😉
Waiting for information about what’s going on in the house!
Later! 😎

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tendr August 15, 2015 at 10:17 pm

That’s ok Jolie… anyone can become mean. Some easier than others.

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Jeanne August 15, 2015 at 10:21 pm

K

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C'est Moi August 15, 2015 at 10:24 pm

Good news and bad news as I see it. Bad news is that Becky is the odds on favorite to be evicted on Thursday. Good news is that she is going to lay low and go with the flow and plan her strategy to win the competition to return to the house and hopefully kick some serious ass (holes) of which there are too many to list.

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tendr August 15, 2015 at 10:28 pm

@C’est Moi..my great grandfather came here from Germany. His name was Balthazar. I’ve always been curious if that’s a common name there.

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C'est Moi August 15, 2015 at 10:46 pm

@tendr

Balthazar spelled with a z is more common as a Spanish/Portuguese surname. The German spelling would typically be Balthasar and it is a relatively common name in the German speaking countries in Europe.

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KevInDenver August 15, 2015 at 11:07 pm

i KNEW when those naive non-savvy MFers screwed over Becky by keeping psycho-Vanessa in the house, they’d all go to jury one-by-one. The creepiest house guests are going to the end… 🙁

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jolee August 16, 2015 at 12:55 am

tendr, at least you’re not mean! You are a good friend that I really care about! I can say I don’t like anyone in the BB house except Johnny, but I certainly don’t hate them. Hate is not in my DNA. 😉
Keep blogging! I love reading all of them.
Later! 😎

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Sylvie August 16, 2015 at 1:14 am

@C’est Moi
Bonsoir!
Thanks @LM
You write so well

Why does everyone like JM ?
He doesn’t do anything ?

Having a hard time w this bunch

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Kelly August 16, 2015 at 1:27 am

I have watch Big Brother since it first started and this is the first year I just can`t get into it. The house guest are uninteresting to me, just by far the worst year ever for me. Does anybody else feel the same way??? Oh well maybe next year will be better, I sure hope so. Cause I`m so disappointed with year…. Boring………..

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jolee August 16, 2015 at 2:03 am

Sylvie, I guess we like Johnny because he’s the least offensive of the bunch. He can be funny, and he is smarter than any of the HG’s in my opinion.
Just peeked in to see if there was anymore news. Nite all!
Later! 😎

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tendr August 16, 2015 at 2:27 am

C’est Moi thanks for the info…I knew I was guessing at the spelling.

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tendr August 16, 2015 at 2:29 am

Thanks Jo

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sherry August 16, 2015 at 2:46 am

C’est Moi” I used my Spanish background and my knowledge that Moi meant me and
figured that was what it meant, but wanted to make sure. Thanks.

Fell asleep and just woke up. Guess who won’t be sleeping any more tonight?
Can’t believe LIz just won her third comp, and Austin is stepping it up, too. Were they both
throwing comps previously or have recent comps just been more suited to them?

Just turned on the t.v. to watch recorded BBAD and the marvelous Vanessa was talking
nonstop to Steve and not listening to a thing he’s saying. She is creating trouble with
JM again and insinuated he was mean to her in the kitchen. Steve says he doesn’t believe
the rumors going around the house about her. (Have your wisdom teeth damaged your
brain?) What will it take for him to realize Vanessa is not his mother and isn’t really in
his corner? She wants him at the end, because she thinks she can beat him with votes.
At this point I’m thinking that might not happen. Just because she can spout off about
having more wins of comps than he, doesn’t mean they’ll vote for her since everyone in
the jury will probably be there because of her.

Am going to go watch more of BBAD.

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Sylvie August 16, 2015 at 2:58 am

Hi friends
I’m French
C’est Moi Sylvie ?

I get it about JM but I also feels like he’s a good floater too
But not amazing offensive as the others sure

But I need to see more from him not doing enough !

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sherry August 16, 2015 at 3:46 am

Just finished BBAD. What a waste of time. This is the most boring crew ever! I can’t get
over how loud everyone is, too. No one should allow Meg to drink, as she only gets louder.
The twins and Austin are good runner ups. It’s hard to tell at times when everyone talks
at the same time. From a viewer’s point of view, it’s almost impossible to follow any con-versation when they all talk at the same time. I wish production would talk to them about
not being so loud and talking at the same time during BBAD.

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tendr August 16, 2015 at 4:41 am

Sherry, it sounds like holidays with my family except no one hardly ever drinks…i come home worn out..Sylvie, unless you don’t want to say, where do you live?

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tendr August 16, 2015 at 4:57 am

about Clay http://www.bbspy.co.uk/bb16/news/0619/big-brother-17-usa-clay-honeycutt-home-targeted-by-burglars-while-in-sequester-before-premiere

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Bbfanmo August 16, 2015 at 7:58 am

There are mean players this year.. but Ginny, Clay and Shelli were 2 of the biggest mean players in the house. Yes Johnny Mac is funny and btw he’s not a mean player. I’m not a fan of Vanessa but she is playing a good game.. the goal is to stay in the house.. not make friends. … that being said.. I hope Johnny Mac wins.

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Sylvie August 16, 2015 at 10:55 am

@Tendr

I’m in LA and yes it’s really hot
95 in BH and Danta Minica yesterday

So unusual

May be they could at s game where they all have to be quiet so they can’t tell on BBAD lol

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sherry August 16, 2015 at 11:45 am

tendr: Thanks for the bio info on the HGs and the info on the burglary at Clay’s residence.
Since it seems the place may have been a rental for him and his roommate (brother, possibly), I’ll bet he didn’t hae insurance. Young people often do not get insurance. I hate
this has happened to him. How do you know about these sites? My hat’s off to you for
getting info for us.
And bless your heart for the hearing and mental stability you still possess after family
gatherings that are as loud as BB!!!!

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sherry August 16, 2015 at 11:49 am

I can hardly wait until tonight to see if I can detect whether or not Van really threw the
comp. She told Steve she did, but it didn’t come off as sincere to me. Maybe I’ll be able
to detect it from what they will show. I know she thinks she has this game wrapped up
with loyatly from the Austwins and Steve, but at this stage in the game, nothing is a sure
deal. Since she came close to going home last week, I would think this is one gamble she
would be afraid to take. However, maybe the gambler in her just can’t resist the risk factor.

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jolee August 16, 2015 at 12:26 pm

Happy Sunday everyone! Just checking in!
Later!! 😎

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sherry August 16, 2015 at 1:02 pm

Happy Sunday to you, too, Jolee.

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jolee August 16, 2015 at 1:21 pm

😉

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Jeanne August 16, 2015 at 2:20 pm

God bless you all. Have a great day. Smile

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tendr August 16, 2015 at 3:15 pm

Sherry I keep missing BB Australia so I was trying to find info on it and found info on Clay instead.

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sherry August 16, 2015 at 3:50 pm

Kelly: I think you have a lot of company with your assessment of this year’s BB. Each year
it seems to get worse and worse. I thought the past two years were bad, but this year is more boring than any other in the minds of many fans. For several years fans have asked
that Grodner be replaced as her cast decisions have been way below par, but she is popular
with someone. She’s keeps her job and casting remains a sore point with many fans.

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sherry August 16, 2015 at 4:04 pm

tendr: However you found it, you are far more adept with the compute than I. Thanks
for sharing what you found.

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