Does Russell being put up mean that Jeff’s fate is sealed?

I think Kevin will vote out Nat try to say Michelle did it and Michelle will vote out Nat trying to say Kevin did it. Russell stays and Nat goes to the Jury house. Russell wins HOH and put up J/J. Kevin wins Vote and Jeff goes to jury house. I was rooting for Jorden and Jeff but the last few weeks they let the power go to their heads so i have to say i have turned and want Kevin and Russell to be final 2.

at this point i don’t care, as long as its NOT Gnat…this just makes the game more exciting to see how things play out…….hopefully Gnat goes home on thurs………..hope Russ is working some magic to flip Jordan, since she’s the one that got to Jeff about putting him up…wouldn’t mind seeing her go soon too………her dumbness is annoying now……..

I can’t fathom Jeff not considering even one time that the jury house is currently (and will be) made up of members of Nat-a-lie’s alliance. I think he is practicing the policy of “Keep your friends close; but your enemies closer” by keeping Nat-a-lie in the house. Perhaps Jeff subconsciously realizes that if Nat-a-lie goes to the jury house now, she’ll have more time to use her powers of persuasion on the members that are there and will be there before the final. I think he’d rather take his chances with her having limited time in the jury house. Of course, I may be giving Jeff far too much credit for thinking this deeply concerning Nat-a-lie’s talent for persuasive tactics.

PK, what I think Lisa is saying both will vote for gnat thinking that the other wouldnt. That why they could run to jeff and say.. see Kevin voted russell to stay. this being michele saying it.. then kevin vote russell to stay so he could say to jeff the same.. Get it.. But neither one knew that was the others plan.. They actually didnt want Russell to stay but thought it would be a good play to blame the other and put doubt in Jeffs mind who is loyal..
Wow would that not make things turn a bit..
I am not being really impressed with any of the HGs right now.. But you have to remember it is down to the wire.. They need to play hard now to win big..
Sooo whatever happens please oh please HGs dont let GNAT win..
I am not in one bit a fan of hers..
Smiles..
Kim

Cathy
What BB are you watching.. HE has lied.. Do you get live feeds or do you watch BBAD?? He has lied on many times.. He lied about him going to Michele for a final 2. He lied about what he said to Kevin that he never once said he wanted him out.. OMG
You have got to be kidding me!!!!
He has lied as all the others are doing now..
I swear that there has to be a second show running in some homes across America..
You need to subscribe to live feeds and actually watch them..
You only see what the editors let you see if you just watch the shows weekly..
justwondering..
Kim

I really was rooting for Jeff until he decided to backdoor Russell. He’s afraid he’ll lose competitions to Russell which might be true but Russ would have been loyal till final 4. He genuinely liked Jeff. I’m not a Russ fan–I think he has agressive issues and is a bully. But Jeff really blew it. It’s unlikely Jordan will get HOH next week–I think Kevin will get it, he’s smarter than he’s let on to the others. Gnat talks tough but is too busy knocking everyone down with her mouth and can’t see past her own ego. So the way I see it is that Russ goes this week, then Kevin gets rid of Jeff then Michelle gets rid of Gnat. The final 3 will be Kevin, Jordan and Michelle. And as I’ve been since Day One, I’m rooting for Michelle. I’ve been baffled by their mean comments about her as on the live feeds and After Dark, she’s mostly polite and kind, only a little confused remembering conversations which causes her to say odd things.
Jeff–you blew it. Bye.
Michelle – You go girl!

Kim, if Gnat is voted out, even Jeff in his current stupor will know BOTH Kevin and Michelle did it regardless what either of them says in an attempt to pass blame

Russell is gone, Jeff has been dreaming about fishing and that is probably why he took the bait from Kevin and Nat hook, line and sinker. All that power that last few weeks has weaken his judgment and has a case of the paranoia’s like every HOH in the past.

Indeed he is in big trouble next week and must win the POV if he is to survive, he has to be smart enough to know that the odds are pretty high of Jordon NOT winning HOH, We know Kevin and Nat has a target on Jeff and Michele, and it is difficult to really know what is going on in Michele’s brains, but I would think since J/J deviated from the finale four with out telling her she is not feeling any love from the current King and Queen of the house and go on to make a deal with the devils, love them or hate them, they are making moves in this game that are crippling the rest of the HG.

Of course, Thursday may bring more twists and turns along with un-suspecting surprises and all our logical thinking goes up in smoke fro another round of speculating next week.

I love this show – I hate this show! I hate the HG’s – well I really hate their behavior; I’m sure they’re all really nice people away from the house. I love the theory of Kevin and Michelle both voting out Gnat, blaming it on the other one, etc. I sooooooooooooo wish that would happen!

I’d love to see Russ and Michelle as F2. Kevin really has played a good game too, even though he hasn’t won anything. I’ve always liked him and his antics. He’s smart – he seems to catch on to things a little quicker than the others. Stays pretty quiet about it though.

Buh bye, Jeff. You blew it. I wish I could see your face when you realize you fell hook line and sinker for the LML. I don’t see Jordan winning anything next week, or ever. I don’t like all the nasty personal really mean-spirited comments being said behind backs. Is it worse than usual this year, or is it always like this and I’ve forgotten?

Though I do hope that Russell stays and Gnat goes this Thursday, one stupid thing Russell did in the past that keeps me wondering if he has ever watched BB before was when Michelle overheard Chime saying that she wanted to get Russell out of the house. Michelle relays that info to Russell and he then confronts Chima lips. Sure Michelle will deny trying to help you Russell and put herself in jeopardy with Chima et al.. DUH!!!!

Oh, btw, I know it probably won’t happen that way, but that is my most optimistic theory! We’ll see!!!

It has been a great season – better than most. But I wonder if these people listen to their coversations after the show is over. For someone who says she is so educated – listen to her. She (Michelle) cannot complete a sentence without a few or more “like”. She sounds like an idiot. Also, Jeff really swears a lot as does Nat. Of course, that is true of them all but Jeff wants to come across as this honorable person. Natalie seems like a little rat. My impression. I think Jordan has more smarts than is showing on the show. Kevin is a really nice person caught up in the game. He would be a great friend.

I have a right to my opinion Carol as do you.

Um Russell has lied, and a plenty at that! They are all liars! Like they say its part of the game! But i tell you i have been the least interested this year in Big Brother since the first season, these people are idiots and I think that starting off with the Cliche like they did caused BB to pick these idiots,
I dont agree that back dooring Russell now is a good idea, but really none of them are too bright in the head, so I dont really care who wins at this point because i really dont think any of them have earned it!

everyone has a right to their own opinion i just stated mine and ive seen a lot of things in my years and i have a right to my opinion to everyone acts different in the house than from when their outside of it

send nat home keep russ lets make the game intresting and see what happens

Come on Guys!!!!! what are you all crazy. This was a great game play by Jeff. He has to get rid of Russell now while he has the chance. There are still 6 people in there. If Russell stays he will probably win HOH and you know that he would definitely get out Jeff….he was talking about that last week! If the roles were reversed i would bet 100% that Russell would have done the same thing and back doored Jeff. You never know with the votes at the end…we still dont know whats going to happen with Chima’s vote at the end and usually people vote by the game and not emotions in the end….Either way i’m pretty happy with the final 6 and i just want to see them BATTLE IT OUT =)

Jeff needs to wake up and realize he messed up. He needs to convince Russell that he is using him for a pawn and keep chiseling away at Kev and Gnat. Even though the whole jury house is not from Jeff’s side of the house, I think in the long run they would agree that he played the best game.

Thinking lies aren’t part of the BB Game is like thinking home runs aren’t a part of baseball. They are both parts of their respective games and I think us viewers get too wrapped up in the HG we’re pulling for and fail to try and see that ALL the HGs are being somewhat duplicitous–it’s justto what degree? And how much it really bothers us. But remember, like baseball, it’s justagame, and the real things in our real lives are ultimately way important than if Jeff wins BB11 or Natalie is lying. BB must be great to get all of us to theorize and write here daily about a reality show if your really think about it.

And if we’re talking about Russell’s specific lies here, don’t forget when he ran up to the HoH room and told Ronnie all his screaming at him that one week was all for show and that it was his plan (for that second) was to have he and Ronnie in the F2. All in all though, Russell has really played a pretty good Game. But if he goes to the Jury House Thursday, it will probably be because of his temper combined with the vote to save Jessie after Jeff took him off The Block. That got to Jeff. And if we can accuse Ronnie of playing too fast, too hard, too soon (He did with a very weak Dr. Will impersonation), then I think we can accuse Russell of playing a little too mean. This ain’t the MMA ring brother. But no matter what, Russell isn’t out the door unless Michele and Kevin decide its a strategic move to keep him. Russell told Kevin (BBAD last night) “Michele’s on board,” with a plan to save him but I’ll believe that when I see it.

And for me, a Jeff-Michele Final would be the best thing. Like others I justdon’t want Natalie to win. She makes my skin crawl.

PK, Michele WILL put up Jeff is she wins HoH next week? I’ll believe it when I see it. Is she that ballsy? Would she trash her F3 plan at that point, so close…I say she’d quite obviously put up the same 2 HGs Jeff did last Thursday–Kevin and Natalie. That is of course, unless Natalie heads to Jessieville Thursday.

and if Michelle is successful in being responsible for booting Jeff out of the house, that will surely count for some needed votes for her should she reach the f2 in the jh.

I liked Jeff really, but I bet Jeff would not allow one person in the house to speak to him the way he spoke to Jordan. Jordan didn’t even give him any lip back. He’s getting fustrated and taking it out on her. He really shouldn’t be depending on her very much.

Did I not hear Russell say to Michelle that he would get Jeff out? I don’t like that Jeff lost his cool, but come one, as was said, he got Russell, before Russell got Jeff. It was going to have to happen at some point. Russell has lied as have they all, not sure how anyone can say he hasn’t lied??? That’s how the game goes. I think Jeff did a really good job controlling himself for so long, that he finally snapped. I would have along time ago with this group of psychos! I don’t know if Jeff will make it to the end, he was kind of damned if he does damned if he doesn’t, but Jordan winning HOH is definately better against Nat and Kevin in endurance than Russell, Michelle, I think she could pull it off, but atleast it’s more of an even playing field with Russell gone between who can try for HOH. The only time in the last few years that BB has gotten so wicked that anyone I wanted to see win was Dan, and so I hope for the best for Jeff, he has played hard and not rode along like most of the others have, and see what happens.

Russell is a tool and needs to go. He has argued with about every player in the game and then deflected the attention come nomination or vote time. While this would have been good to bring up if he ever made the final 2 he has to go. His game still hasn’t been figured out by the other houseguests. They just think he is a strong, physically, player. I assure you if Russell exits on Thursday his exit interview will say that it was his strategy to get under peoples skin and make it to the final 2 where he hopes the others would reward his strategy and play and not vote on a personal leve.

Jeff made the right move but at the wrong time. Jeff needed to get either Kevin or nat out first. Jeff is thinking only in the short term not the long. He’s not thinking about the jury make up. If either J/J/N go up against N/K in the final two, the jury will more likely vote for N/K to take the $. Jeff should have kept Russ as going against him in final two is better than going with N/K.
Jeff made the game too personal and not strategic when he made the right move but sadly at the wrong time.

Kevin is interesting. He didn’t take Lydia of the block when he won POV, he is willing to stick his neck out and lie with the chance of getting caught, he aligns himself with the most awful people (Lydia, Nat & Chima) I get the feeling he is more comfortable attaching himself to the girls. I think he’s more intimidated by the guys. Other than Michelle & the girl in the beginning who was on to Ronnie, the girls really suck as human beings. Notice at Jessies wake you didn’t see Kevin shedding any tears.

Does anyone know wh Jessie wouldn’t hug Kevin when he was leaving?

I saw your notice Kevin about Senator Kennedys’ passing away. I had already seen the news footage. The only thing that comes to mind regarding him is one word. Chapaquidik!

You made me think of another Senator who is still alive, Arlen Specter. Whenever I hear his name I think of only one thing, “The Single Bullet” theory. That makes my skin crawl. Sorry for getting off point people.

I mentioned this before while listening to an Elton John song on one of his CD’s, the song “LIES”, how appropriate for this group. (In the house)

It is amazing home many BB fans take this game personally. Jeff has not blown anything. He is a very smart and strong player who knows it’s crunch time. Jeff’s decision to backdoor Russell made sense in many ways should he not change his game play. Russell is his biggest competitor in the physical competitions and Michelle his biggest competitor in the mental competitions. Russell played the game all wrong with Jeff between his mouth, spying, and paranoia using Michelle to talk for him, are you kidding, Russell being a jerk. If you think Jeff trust Kevin or Natalie, think again. He knows his back is up against the wall next well and has a target on his back with who every remains in the game except for Jordan. Which is why he is putting pressure on Jordan to improve her game play. Jordan knows Jeff has a target and because they are together she will most likely be on the block with him and is trying to find a way to stay. Jeff has looked at all of the options and does not trust anyone except Jordan to an extent. Team Russell and Michelle are much stronger than Team Kevin and Natalie. Jeff’s plan makes sense, which is to break-up the stronger team, Russell and Michelle. He put Russell as odd man out because trust and feels he has a better shot of getting Michelle on his side. Because he is not confident that if Jordan can win HOA. That if he keeps Michelle who has a best shot of beating Natalie has proven to be weak or Kevin not much better In the HOA. Remember Jordan and Michelle had discussions and put in place side agreement. Also remember Michelle was a loner most of the game and does not like Kevin or Natalie nor they about her. Unless they have made a major change in the past few days. But in any event Jeff needs the POV next week or he will most likely be gone. Frankly Michelle has played the game in a way to position her make the final three. So if you re-think Jeff’s plan of evicting Russell for his best chance to make it to the final three. IF Russell made it to the final two odd are he would finish number 2. Michelle, Jeff most likely will finish number 2 against Kevin or Natalie. Kevin would mostly be Natalie in the final 2. As for Jordan she is the wild card and could possible bet all of the if game play is let out. Just my analysts.

Dom, following your reasoning where you state that if Russell made it to the f2 he would finish number 2, then WHY would anybody want Russell out of the game, Jeff included. Sure Russell is a strong competitor, but it is worth taking the risk to play to game hoping to be the “lucky” hg in the f2 sitting next to Russell…

Twists and turns twists and turns.I cant decide what I want! I think I want Jeff to change his mind and Keep Russell around. I dont want NAT to win! If Kevin Michelle Jeff or Russell win Ill be fine with it. Jeff was my #1 and hes really on a Power High and Losing it and my #2 Russell is lookin better and better. Well see what happens.Im so worried about having internet service on vacation sept7-11th so I can get BBBlog updates on my itouch teehee.Ill be in Vegas Looking for an internet hookup to get By Big Brother Fix. I WONDER IF I CAN BET ON A WINNER IN VEGAS?? that would be cool.

I think Jeff is just getting stressed out and claustrophobia and thats why hes being so mean to Jordan??I wonder what BB is going to do about a 7th vote??

Got the live feed. The Exchange between Jeff and Russell after the Veto ceremony was the best 15 minutes of anything I’ve seen. Russell will kick the sh** out of Jeff when he enters the jury house, and Jeff will ‘stab him in the neck’. WOW
One interesting thing – Kevin makes up this fairy tale about Russell wanting to backdoor Russell. When confronted, Russell doesn’t deny it!!!!

Diana, i agree with you too, Jeff needs to get away from “Jordo”.

make that 3 to 2 to 4 to 1

Jeff is keeping Jordon around because she gives him a second vote (or a single vote in cases where he would not have any).

However, if he had made a F2 deal with Russell, he could have had THREE votes, PLUS unchallenged competition superiority, all the way, then they could have jettisoned Jordon at the end.

Food for thought or one more scenario, Jeff and Russell staged this weeks game play to fake-out everyone into believing that they are against each other when they have a secert aggreement to team-up to make the final 2. They are the strongest players and willing to needed a deversion to make it thru the next two weeks as they are the biggest threat.

pk i think that kevin wouldnt have the sac to put jeff up in noms cuz then jeff would create havoc and play that much harder for the veto. kevin is a safe player.. as evidenced by his decision to not take lydia off the block when he won the veto so he didnt make enemies. he would do exactly what jeff did to russ , make him think he was safe and then back door him last minute. nat is dumb and would put jeff up asap but i think kev would be smart about it.

worst case scenario:

Russ stays, nat evicted.
Russ wins hoh, nom’s jeff and jordan.
Russ wins POV and jeff goes home.
Kevin wins HOH noms michelle and jordan.
Russ wins POV and evicts Jordan.
Russ then wins HOH and evicts kevin,
Russ and Michelle final two.

Jessie votes Russ
Nat votes Russ
Jeff votes Michelle
Jordan votes michelle
Lydia votes michelle
Kevin votes michelle

Michelle wins BB11

so even in the worst case scenario i think michelle would win and she is number three on my list of who i want to win so that wouldnt be that bad.

typed too fast in the last post… typos everywhere…

I love the way Kevin is playing Jeff like a puppet ~ boy is going to feel like a fool when all this is over Ha

Okay, after watching the show last night, I think I have an idea of why Jeff did what he did….even though he said that he put up Russell because he didn’t vote for Jessie. I think it is because Russell is just one vote in the jury house…no one else likes him. If he didn’t use the veto & left Kevin & Natalie on the block…then they are worth 4 votes in the jury house….Kevin, Natalie, Jessie & Lydia! This way, he can look like the good guy & not get rid of them now & hope that he can beat them in the final 4, 3, 2 & 1! If he went up against Russell, he could possibly lose if it came down to physical endurance! I think that is why he was so hard on Jordan as well! I thought that was rather funny….look at the wall & study it!!!! I really hope he can pull this off for his sake. I think Jordan is just too young to realize the importance right now. I don’t want Kevin & Natalie to win at all, even more so now! Michelle, I just don’t get either right now! So I’m going to assume that we will see all of the explosive behavior on Thursday night!!!! Can’t wait to watch!

pk unless jeff and russ have a secret side deal already that we dont know about, then russ is toast. end of story.

Does Chima get to vote for the winner? i hope not! She shouldn’t because she was removed for not following the rules. I think Jordon is a lot smarter than you all think. She is a deep thinker and lets Jeff bounce ideas off of her. jeff will need her to go all the way. IMO Jeff will win and Jordon will be no. 2 and Michele will be in 3rd place which I’m not sure she deserves. Maybe kevin as No. 3?

God, are we having sun spots? I swear they are blocking the Satellites! Getting through here is like, well the people who built the Pyramids in Egypt moved faster!

Won’t you people be happy when BB is all over this year? Probably not.

It’s still not too late for Jeff to wise up and push for Russell to stay. It’s his only hope of continuing in the game.

If not, Russell leaves Thursday.
Jeff leaves next Thursday.
Michelle leaves the following Thursday.
Kevin and Natalie defeat Jordan in the finals.
Kevin wins the votes and wins Big Brother.

anyone with live feed tune in
huge fight between J&J and russ
screaming and jeff told jordan to be quiet

:Tell me how you see the next 3 weeks breaking down and who the final 2 will be:

This week Russell will get the boot. Next week Michelle will finally go! Thank the lord…she needed to go weeks ago. After that it is up in the air depending on who gets hoh and veto. I am hope Nat and Kevin are the final two.

Go Kevin!

margie, let me know if you hear when/where it’s up on You Tube or if anyone records it and can e-mail it.

thanks

To all those singing Natalie’s praises: I’m utterly and completely baffled. Natalie hasn’t been able to muster a single, solitary win of any shape or form. She turned in yet another stellarly embarrasing performance in last night’s POV. That’s the only pattern I see. Ditto for Kevin, that whining shadow of a human being.

Natalie, herself, said on last night’s show “I can’t win anything.” First honest thing she’s said. That wasn’t game play, that was the truth. Some have argued she’s an amazing athlete, and is holding back. Ah, hello? Anybody home? She’s now on the block for the FOURTH time, and hasn’t managed to take herself off once. What do these fans imagine she’s waiting on?

Whatever they’re smoking….I want some. lol

All the best to everyone.

Jeff is a fool, his ass deserves to leave. Too bad Russell is not smart enough to figure the one move that he has left. Russell should explain to Jeff that his only chance to win the big Prize 500K is to take Russell who is universally hated to the final two. All other routes lead Jeff to 2nd or eviction. When Russell goes to the jury house the vote against Jeff is 3 – 0. As soon a Jeff screws Michelle the jury vote will be 4 – 0. So even if Jeff manages to carry Jordan to the final two, he will never see a dime of the prick teasers money. It is still not too late for Jeff to demand that Michelle, Kevin and Jordan vote out Natalie. If he loses one, he is the tie breaker. So sad the either way Jeff and Russell are too dumb to see it. Go Natalie (hate your guts) but would so love to see Jeff and Jordan (dumb and dumber) on the block next week.

Jordan did impress me last night, however, in her conversation with Kevin regarding sexuality. I found her open, lovely, and kind. It was a rare moment for her.

Ok I am watching the flashback from about 1245 this afternoon..
Russell is trying to provoke Jeff to hit him.. Jeff is remaining calm at this point.. It was not jordan that jeff was fighting with. Jeff was telling her not to say a thing. He told her to get out of russells face.. Jeff told her that russell was trying to make her get evicted.
Russell is doing this in front of everyone.. He also dropped a dime on Gnat that she was going to send Jeff to him as a birthday present. Jeff keeps telling him to get over himself. Gnat really did say that yesterday.. Russell told Jordan that she was a fat pig and to go eat her cookie dough.. whatever.. Russell is really showing himself.. IF you have flashback go to 1245 and it feeds over into the 1pm hour too..
Ok i have to watch this.. I will look see if it is on youtube and let you all know..
Kim

Jasper, I agree with you almost completely regarding Jeff/Jordan. Unfortunately, Jeff is not thinking with the head on his shoulders, he is entranced by Jordan. I’ve said this a few times in my notes on the game; Jordan wants his comfort and protection without giving anything (not even kisses) in exchange. There’s a name for girls who do that and it is not being a southern lady.

p2, I’ve been married to a southern lady (M0bile, AL, variety) for many, many years and from what I know only too well being a southern lady means, “what is mine is mine and what is yours will soon be mine too.” But they do is no nicely. How very nicely…

Man…Just another day of blow outs in the BB house!!
Jordan chest bumping Russell?!…Now, that should make her Grandparents proud! (NOT!)
I am no longer a fan of ANYONE in this house…
This house is a total TRAIN WRECK…
BTW…Michelle has lost a ton of weight!…Is that called the “Slop Diet”?, (next new Hollywood diet?) or is she too nerved out to eat? I must admit she looks good, and a twig next to Jordan…However, Jordan is not fat– Russell!…According, to Jordan she is ” just thick “….

shookup, michelle said last night on BBAD she had lost 16 lbs. she does call it the slop diet! maybe if they market it to the public…

Got home from work (painful to have to go back) and I’m caught up on my reading. Interesting thoughts and thoeries. I’ve read that maybe Jordan is “playing” dumb. I’m sorry to say, but this girl isn’t playing anything… including BB or Jeff. She is an open book.. and that book is titled, “See Spot Run”. What you see is what you get. I’ve also read that maybe Jeff & Russ have a secret deal and Russ is a pawn. Or for Jeff to talk to Russ and convince him that he is a pawn. This doesn’t work with only 6 people left. No chance that Jeff and Russ have any kind of deal now. There is no turning back for Jeff with Russ. No mending fences or fresh starts. I don’t think Jeff sees much more in Jordan than someone to hang out with and talk to. He sees her as sweet and kind, and as the only person that would talk to him week 2 when he was on the block. It’s not like he can dump her and move on, this is BB.. not real life. He has nowhere to go til the finale’. Jeff got ripped early for not playing the game, now he’s getting ripped for playing the game too hard. He can’t seem to do anything right for some people. Lucky for him, he’s not playing the game for those people.

Almost a certainty: Russell leaves, Jeff/Jordon do NOT go on the block next week.

As I alluded to above (WAY above! ), think about who will get HOH…

a- Not Jeff (ineligible).

b- If anybody else besides Jordon gets it, they have to consider the very real possibility that Jeff will win the Veto (probably a 70-80% likelihood).
…..If they put up Jeff, he will take himself off, but be gunning for the one who made him have to do it. And he will be a heavy favorite for the next HOH. Way too risky. Same goes if they put up Jordon alone, he takes her off and take out the one who did that to him/her.
…..So what happens if they put up BOTH Jeff and Jordon? Jeff takes himself off, someone else gets put on. Here’s how I see the votes in the three scenarios that result:
JORDON/MICHELE: Michelle goes home and Kevin/Natalie (whoever was the HOH) is dead meat the next week.
JORDON/KEVIN: Michele sides with J/J and Kevin goes.
JORDON/NATALIE: ditto
…..It’s a no-win situation. The best choice they will have is to put up the other two who are not J/J. Otherwise, they are playing a long shot. The only way to get past Jeff is for him to lose the Veto competition. If they are going to count on him losing the veto competition, they are still better off with the non-J/J option, because then they can dodge being the next week’s target if he does win… and if Jeff somehow does not win the veto, they can still “backdoor” him and dodge the bullet. The three of them need to work this out among themselves before the HOH competition if they are going to be able to carry it off.

c- If, by some fluke, Jordon gets it, she’s obviously going to shelter Jeff.

Please tell me if you see a fault in this logic (other than the simple fact that nobody can be trusted!)

backdoor, in scenario b) ..If they put up Jeff, he will take himself off, but be gunning for the one who made him have to do it. And he will be a heavy favorite for the next HOH. Way too risky

don’t think Gnat and Kevin are capable of making that deduction. Kevin, well, perhaps on a good day. Gnat, no way. her whole reason for LML is to get Jeff out.

that’s the only fault i see in your logic, the HGs in question don’t have that kind of fore sight.

I remember JEFF saying one time on the show, you have to bite your tongue inthis game , I imagine he probably had to do that alot , he is atempermental guy. He really is not that much different from RUSSEL, Both very competitive and cant stand to lose. PEOPLE on here seem to EXCUSE alot of things about JEFF simply because he is considered the HOT GUY on the SHOW. when in reality they both have done some UNSAVORY STUFF. At this point I would Love it if some how RUSSEL was ableto get the votes and stays , IT really would make for a much more exciting show.

bd, the only flaw in your logic might be the fact that the remaining hg’s may not want to concede victory to Jeff just out of fear of retribution for making moves to take him out of the game. You gotta take risks to win big at anything…

Thanks, p2 (I guess it’s OK to call you that?). Very good point.

Of course, Natalie did come up with that oh, so clever (NOT!) title, “Last Minute Lie.”

BTW, am I the only one who notices that she never looks directly at people? She always seems to be looking at them out of the corners of her eyes. Very “shady” looking. I think that’s a big part of why I’ve never liked her, even a little.

The way I see it, Jordan should be the one worried about going home. She really needs to step up and take these competitions serious. If Jess and Jordan get put up, Jeff does get to play for PoV, and there is nothing like being on the block to motivate you. If he wins, he’s sure as hell not going ot use it on Jordan. Then the smart move by everyone is to vote out Jordan.

Now if Nat or Mich had half a brain, they should try to position themselves in a strong alliance with Jeff for a possible Final 2 stand. Forget Kevin, too mousy to really do anything significant in this game.

I can see a final 2 of Jeff and Michele with Jeff winning…

Backdoor, I just meant that he can’t win with some people. Sorry for the confusion.

BTW, in case anyo0ne is wondering about my “handle,” don’t get any lewd ideas!

It’s actually a nickname from college, when I lived in the rear apartment of a duplex…both of us were named Sharon, so the landlord (who hung out with us a lot, and who lived upstairs) started calling us “backdoor” and “frontdoor.” Don’t use it much any more, so it fits when I come online.

(And now, we return you to your regularly scheduled BB programming)

Tensions on this board are rating about as high as in the BB House. Wouldn’t it be fun if from this point forward America got to vote to evict the remaining houseguests!!! Now that’s what I call Fantasy BB Ball…=^^=

and another argument ensuing between J&J, with Jeff pushing Jordan, and Jordan repeating “I am, Jeff, I am doing my best, I jus’ cain’t help it.”

Backdoor, We are with you on Natalie’s so called “poker face”. She doesn’t have one. Early in the game, I started calling her “Shifty”. Then better nick-names came along. I wrote quite a rant on here 3 weeks ago about that very thing (among others). I would love to sit with her at a poker table. She reads like a book.

Bullwinkle, like I said above–if Michelle gets the HOH, I think she’s smart enough to realize thatJeff is odds-on favorite to win the Veto, and probably the next HOH as well. I don’t think she would take the chance to tick him off. Besides, she’s not all that thrilled with K/N anyway.

Donna Rose, That would change the HG’s behaviors a bit, wouldn’t it?

I like the move to put Russel on the block, and if Michele gets the HoH, I hope she breaks up Kevin and Gnat just because their self inflated egos are getting out of control. They can’t seem to win anything to position themselves in the game and ONLY rely on others paranoia to move forward. Time for one of them to go so the other can sit on pins and needle’s wondering when their time will be up.

missed that post, but apology accepted… LOL

thanks, anyway.

Ooh, things could be getting interesting…while Michele is schmoozing J/J in the HOH and bad-mouthing Russell left and right, Russell just caught Kevin alone (in the shower, actually), and asked him if his mind was made up. Instead of a simple non-committal response, Kevin went a little further, with “No, have you talked to Michele?” Of course, she and Russ will be talking later in the steel have-not room. When he was done, Kevin went back to the Red Room, where Natalie is, but as far as I can tell, HE NEVER TOLD NATALIE THAT HE HAD TALKED TO RUSSELL!

Anyone wanna make odds whether Russell can pull Kevin and Michele together? Or is what we’ve been seeing what we’re gonna get? Is Kevin’s response just calculated as a step toward setting up Michele?

if michelle stays true to form, once russell talks to her, she’ll agree and run straight back to JJ with the info. that’s been her m.o. for the last weeks, and it has kept her off the block. why change it now when she clearly knows russell is using her and gnat can’t stand her?

inquiring minds want to know…

Time to weigh in on a few things. Apparently there must have been a lot of CBS only watchers posting earlier. Jeff hasn’t fallen for anything Natalie and Kevin are selling. He doesn’t trust either one of them. He went thru every scenario on BBAD and came to the conclusion he was going on the block next week no matter what. Therefore his best move was to take out the strongest competitor in the game. He knows he can’t rely on Jordan to win HOH (although bulwinkle knows he’s tried and tried to push her along). So you take out the strongest competitor knowing you HAVE to win POV. Thus increasing your odds of actually being able to win it. One thing is certain that on next Tuesday’s POV telecast we will see some serious determination to win.

As for Russell saying he has Michele’s vote to Kevin. Let’s think back to the week when Jeff saved him with the Coup. That week Russell was running around telling everyone he had Jessie and Natalie, and telling Jessie that he had Michele’s vote. All the while he of course had none of these votes to stay. Kevin’s response is always “have you talked to Michele”. He and Natalie came up with that plan last night before he went outside to talk with Russell about all of this. He also said to Russell that he would not be involved in any conversation about it directly with Michele as he was afraid she would immediately go tell Jeff and Jordan. Towards the end of it all Russell was talking about Kevin and his boyfriend coming to San Fran and all of them going out.
Kevin’s reply was something to the effect of we’ll have to wait and see if we’re still friends after this. Russell replied “What do you mean?” and Kevin said “I’m not on board with this” and I believe tossed in a you’re probably leaving this week. At which point he walked off and Russell sat there with steam coming out of his ears.

oh yeah, PGA Dok — Good Post

SWEET! Are we having moose burgers? Hehe couldn’t resist. I’m in a bit of an ornery mood as the LIVE show is pre-empted for preseason football tomorrow night. Therefore, I have to wait and watch it like a left coaster once the game is over. (Stomping around snorting and grunting like Russell) And next week I’ll actually be at the game during the LIVE show. I LOVE that football is here, but man does it mess with the BB viewing lol.

PGA Dok, maybe I misunderstood you. The football game is on a different channel on the east coast.

I live in an NFL city Franks. I wasn’t talking about the nationally televised game. Sorry for the confusion. “guy on restroom door” I don’t know I’m hearing rumblings you have deals with Donna, Kim, Kev11, bulwinkle, p2, augustus, EET, and even Chris. I’m putting you on the block bro LMAO. DISCLAIMER: If you’re name wasn’t mentioned above no offense I was rattling off just a few I’ll slide you in on another rant

justaguy, FRANKS, PGA Dok, What up fellas? Been reading all these posts (we’ll get to Debbie in a minute) and losing my ass on soccer today so haven’t looked in until now. Ater reading all this, I feel SOMEONE will be right about their predictions. Tks for update Kim on Russell’s provocational behavior and on the thought HoH will be an endurance comp. Advantage Michele? And she looks pretty good after losing 16 pounds and getting toned for the BB stretch-run. She’s no dummy people. And nice “See Spot Run” reference justa. Flashbacks of first grade lol (“Go Dick, [ED] Go.) And FRANKS, will look up the ‘Single Bullet’ theory on Arlen Spector later. JFK assassaniation? I have too many pots on the stove apparently. And FRANKS, still haven’t made love to a pregnant woman, haven’t eaten sushi nut must admit I ate some raw cookie dough this weekend–and I’m still alive! lol

Debbie, (I’m with you FRANKS) Your off-the-cuff comment about “you probably believe in UFO’s” reveals much. In my world, the real world, those who aren’t open-minded enough to believe in UFO’s aren’t thinking hard enough. We on Earth are a flyspeck in the entire universe and there ARE civilizations way beyond us who are obviously considerably ahead of us technologically and in the understanding of time and space. I ecommend you Google Travis Walton. Or Barney and Betty Hill. Or Roswell (Why make 4-foot coffins?). And understand sister, that the term “UFO” refers to “Unidentified Flying Object” and does not necessarily insinuate the “unidentified” craft was from outer space. In other words, some of the stuff people say may be our own advanced technologies our government keeps hidden for us for a military advantage. People that don’t believe in UFOs probably thiunk the Earth is 3,000 years and that everything revolves around Man. Or that New Mexico is part of Mexico. Don’t wind me up…

p2, You’re from the Pacific NW? Right on. Great part of the country. So you probably know from living there about Cryptozoology and Bigfoot and the Lake Champlain (BC) Monster called champ (Now Debbie thinks I’m really crazy!) I can guarantee everyone reading this, there are UFO’s, there are Bigfoots (All over USA) and there still are lake monsters. So dinosaurs sort of do still exist, but know-it-all Man thinks we have it all figured out when in reality, we have gone as far in the context of this universe thing as Braden did in BB11. Justhink a little people. Really, we’re not that smart.

Ne Mexico Mexico

Braden went much much much farther in BB11 than we have in the universe. But I guess you knew that. …justanobservation.

Backdoor, thanks for the glimmer of hope.

PGA Dok, thanks for sqashing that glimmer of hope (I’m a Russell fan)

JT good eveing after a hard day at work. You’re blessed. I’ve been laid off for quite some time.

I don’t feel well right now, so now that I’ve finally finished reading everyone’s blog, I’m going to lay down. When I return please oh please let something have happened in the house to clear some heads.

Be back soon

UFO??? I always thought they were just street lights…

IWantToBelieve~~

PGA, you’ve put my boy justaguy on The Block? lol Where is the Midwestern love? And he may have deals with everyone here, but at least they are transparent and out in the open. Don’t fret, justaguy, I will win that fuc*ing PoV and take you off The Block, I feel my stremf returning! And who should I put up? Yep, exactly. (You’re safe PGA. Could never put another Chicagoan up. Except maybe Justin from BB8. (Dig deep.)) And we need the tourism here in Las Vegas! lol O/U tonight: 222 1/2.

PS: But I don’t believe in unicorns. Or magic. Or Brett Favre succeeding for the Vikings. I’m not THAT open-minded. LOL

And hope you feel better kinogirl. I was laid off too this year and feel your pain. It definitely ain’t easy out here right about now. Hang tough girl.

Does anybody know where I could see video of the blowup between Jeff and Russell that happened after the POV ceremony on Monday (8/24) ? My TIVO thinks it recorded BBAD, but actually got 3 hours of music videos. I’ve been a fan of Jeff, but from what I’ve read, his sterling reputation is a little less shiny, and I wanted to see his fall from grace.

Thanks for trying for the Pov for me kev11. But I really did have it coming. PGA called out a few of my F2 deals, but I had many more (Star, HMC, FRANKS, Margie… justtonameafew). I had so many final 2 deals that I forgot to include myself in some of them!!

Patty

search youtube for jeff russel fight

PGA, I would stick to not betting soccer. Nothing worse than losing a bet your team didn’t lose. With the Draw Line (You Can Bet Tie/Draw, +200ish), there are three bets: Two teams and a The Draw. (Example (NOT Betting Tip Mod): In this Sunday’s French Ligue 1, you can take Bordeaux +230, Marseille +105 or a Tie-Draw +205) How many people are going to bet on a Tie/Draw? That’s not exciting? So I have noticed around 20+% of most soccer games end in Ties, and if you have a side in a parlay, that Tie will kill the bet. Lost a 1-1 and 0-0 game in UEFA Champions League Qualifying this afternoon and although NONE of my teams lost all morning, I lost every bet (0-4) because of the cursed ties. Something to think about.

At least Evel Dick’s intimidation of HGs was verbal. Russell’s physicalness may border that edge between Gameplay and What’s Wrong. Trashing someone’s clothes or personal property (Chima) or cigarettes (Jen, BB8) is worthy of warnings, penalty noms or even your boot from Production in the BB House. I’m sure Production is freaking again right about now. I know I couldn’t enter the BB House because if someone like Chima or Russell started with their egomaniacal in-your-face BS with me I fear I’d put slop in their ears and nose while sleeping and then be booted from the House myself. This stuff (playing BB) is way harder than it looks folks, Haven’t heard a HG since Day One in 2000 say it isn’t. For Russell’s sake, I hope he doesn’t cross that invisible line and find humself in a place he never wanted to be–Chimatown.

And how lame to you have to be to steal someone’s Rosary? And on national TV? Get down with tour bad self HGs! You sort of reflect our devolving culture. Eat, yell, lie, sleep. Eat, yell, lie, sleep. Eat, Vote, Exict, Play HoH, Yell, Lie, Eat, Sleep. I’ll keep hiding here on my couch.

Are y’all watching the session going on in the HOH right now? Kevin and Natalie are playing Jeff like a Stradivarius, and he’s buying every word of it! and he’s bad mouthing Russell and Michele as if they were his ex-girlfriends! I’ve lost every remaining bit of respect for Jeff. The guy has no class.

And of course, natalie is gloating worse than Ronnie ever dreamed of!

doesnt it seem like michelle is still loyal to j/j? she keeps securing her final three place i genuinely think that she will prove loyal to them so i am kind of pulling for her to win hoh i mean hopefully jordan will but we all know the probability so i hope it comes down to jo and michelle

I hope that Casey is watching all the stuff going on, and when Jeff calls him up to say “Hi,” Casey says “Stuff it, Jeff, I have nothing to say to you,” and hangs up.

Ding Ding and once again everyone jumps the gun thinking Jeff is buying what Natalie and Kevin are trying to sell. Might I mention as soon as they leave the room both Jeff and Jordan say “I don’t trust them I hope Michele wins”. This Chicago guy rests his case. And why would Casey be mad? What did I miss? The only thing I heard about Casey was Jeff saying Russell wouldn’t be able to give a speech like his.

on bbad a few minutes ago jordan voiced to jeff in the hoh room that she kind of hopes that michelle wins… i hope that the put trust in michelle they would be stupid to put her up. its like why would you keep k/n who the jury of russ michelle jessie lydia would probably favor over j and j, instead of keep r/m which a jury of jess nat lydia and kev wouldnt favor… ugh! i wish i was in that house!!

Its too bad Jeff is clueless to the evil that lurks in the black hearts of Kevin & gNat! Jeff cannot compete for HOH and Jordon can’t win it either———well maybe against the other 3 worthless sliders she can!

“PGA Dok 08.26.09 at 11:44 pm
Ding Ding and once again everyone jumps the gun thinking Jeff is buying what Natalie and Kevin are trying to sell. Might I mention as soon as they leave the room both Jeff and Jordan say “I don’t trust them I hope Michele wins”. This Chicago guy rests his case. And why would Casey be mad? What did I miss? The only thing I heard about Casey was Jeff saying Russell wouldn’t be able to give a speech like his.”

As soon as they left the room, JORDON started the “I can’t trust them” stuff, but Jeff kept ragging on Michelle, and toning Jordin down. Dude, he’s BUYING what they are selling!

Casey saw Russell as he is. Casey is absolutely down with Russell, and he will NOT respect Jeff’s behavior under pressure. I could be wrong, but I have more respect for Casey than any other person who walked into the BB house this season. (Including Jeremy Piven, who I really think is hot! )

And don’t give me that tired old “jeff did it to russell first” routine–Russell never actually SAID that he would stab Jeff. He’s been honor-bound all the way, up until he got stabbed in the back. He ain’t sexy, and he’s a bully, but I do respect his sense of honor.

Backdoor,
You have to be watching the version of BB that the other ppl that think Russell is honest and upstanding.. GIVE ME A BREAK!!!
He has lied all the way through the game..
NO OTHER WAY AROUND IT.. HE LIED!
if you dont get live feeds or bbad then you need to go subscribe to live feeds and watch the flashbacks.
Get real..
It is a game and everyone will be lying at sometime or another.. They are locked in a house for 3 months total.. who would not lose their cool. who would not want to slap the s*i# out of the others.. Guys all have blue balls, women are pms-ing.. No TV, Music, News and no family to support them emotionally.
The stakes are high.. $500K.. Ok what would you be doing? Would you let some idiot that loves to attack women jump your arse? Would you have been able to sit there today without letting him (Russell) get to you?
NOT HARDLY! After me seeing his attack on Jeff today I wish they would let them duke it out.. I think Jeff would lay him out! Look for Russell on the internet as a boxer or fighter.. Do you find anything thing that relates him but the BB11 cast to fighting?? NO..
Ok enough.. Russell is a liar…
justsickofit,
Kim

Not to burst your bubble there Kev11, but your toteboard is wrong. Kevin did win the one POV with the eggs, but chose not to use it on Lydia because he was scared to make a move that might anger someone in the house.

We all have dreams.. LOL
Kim

My bad. Forgot that Kevin PoV win. We’ll change the scoreboard.

Discussing “options” with another HG is often perceived as a”plan” by other HGs in the Big Brother House. And those options often evolve into plans and then action in the House. That’s the Game. Nipping it in the bud by ousting the dude coming up with the “options” may be a great strategy (Remember Ronnie, Jessie?) for those still alive in the Game. And in the end, it’s all just semantics, depending on who you’re pulling for (or against). We ain’t stupid here…

Maybe the most simple and logical post of the day. We’ll see how it plays out and maybe think jamie has this boiled down to its simplest element, Trust:

jamie 08.27.09 at 12:03 am
j/j need to realize that michele is really loyal to them… she isnt alligned with kevin and natalie so obviously she would stick with them. on

What is this, the kevin eleven Show or something? Oh that’s right, all you guys are sleeping now. After reading all the comments on here today I believe I’ve thrown off by all the possibilties posted by everyone and after watching BBAD, I think I’ve got it all figured out in my parallel universe. So here’s what will happen from here on out.
———————————————————————————————————-
Thursday: RUSSELL gets voted out 3-0. Russell trashes Jeff in his speech. MICHELE wins HoH. Jeff smokes relief cigarette.

This weekend: HoH MICHELE nominates KEVIN and NATALIE (again).

Next Tuesday-Thursday: JEFF wins PoV. Jeff leaves nominations the same.
Next Thursday: NATALIE is voted out 2-0 (Jeff, Jordan).
Final 4: JEFF, JORDAN, MICHELE, KEVIN.

After That: JEFF wins next HoH. Jeff nominates KEVIN and MICHELE. Michele puts Jeff on Block as replacement. KEVIN is voted out 2-0 by Michele, Jordan.
Final 3: JEFF, JORDAN, MICHELE.

Final Three (2 of 3) Comps: JORDAN loses. JEFF survives. MICHELE wins, chooses JEFF for Final 2 thinking more Jury members will dislike Jeff than Jordan).

FINAL VOTE: (To spite Jeff out of combined Jury House bitterness) 5-1, MICHELE.
JESSIE—-> Michele
LYDIA—–> Michele
RUSSELL-> Michele
NATALIE–> Michele
KEVIN—–> Michele
JORDAN–> Jeff

AMERICA’S VOTE: JEFF ($25,000)
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Quotable. BBAD
MICHELE: (To Jeff an Jordan independently): “I’m not gonna put you guys up (next week. So you don’t have to worry. If we win this (HoH Thursday), we’re good.”
and
MICHELE: “You guys have been my people since the beginning.”

So jamie’s post above is spot on, saying…
“j/j need to realize that michele is really loyal to them”

And it’s that simple. The more J-J TRUST Michele, the farther they’ll go in th Game. And as I’ve been saying for a month, watch Michele. Girl got game. Don’t focus on the weird faces or the neuroses or the memory lapses. Watch the moves and the loyalty. Michele is the most important player in this Game and maybe one of BB’s best ever. seriously. Justwatch.

If memory serves this old brain when Jeff had Russell up in HOH room before he put Russ up – Jeff asked him straight out Did you say you would put me up? and Russell NEVER said a straight up Yes or No. He skirted the answer each time with a question or ambiguous statement. So was it a good move to put him up? Yeah probably at the time. But I still wonder about the Jeff-Russell combo! That fight in the backyard — what I saw of it was interesting. There was no physical posturing at all – both just sat there yelling at each other. The words may have been there but the body language WASN’T!! Anybody else get that impression?? If he and Russ do have a secret alliance Jeff will tell Jordan to vote out Natalie just before voting — telling her he overhead Natalie and Kevin laughing at how they played her and him this week!! That takes Gnat’s blood off Jeff – she leaves believing Jordan did her in not Jeff.

Has everyone forgotten how rotten Nat and Kevin were the entire show? They were rats from the start. Now Jeff is acting just like them and I think he would have acted that way earlier in the game if he was at the top then. I hope Russell or Michelle win.

I vote to evict Nat.